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The Indictment Today Will Guarantee One Outcome

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by cflgator83, Jun 13, 2023.

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  1. docspor

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  2. cflgator83

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    The only part I disagree with here is that you can't truly believe that the coastal states have been ignored, forgotten, trashed, demeaned and vilified in anywhere near the same way that the flyover states are ignored, forgotten, trashed, demeaned and vilified. It's not even close.
     
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  3. mdgator05

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    So you need special treatment from the justice system (i.e., Trump gets to crime without consequence) or you threaten civil war? Sounds like Law & Order doesn't really mean Law & Order.
     
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  4. cflgator83

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    There's no law and order. Trump is innocent and did nothing wrong. This is political persecution, pure and simple. If Trump broke the law than they better be arresting Obama tomorrow as well and better arrest Biden the exact day he leaves office for doing the exact same thing Trump did.
     
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  5. mdgator05

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    Haha, so they are both ignored and forgotten and also trashed, demeaned, and vilified? You do realize that you have to pay attention to something in order to trash, demean, or vilify something, right?
     
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    i think your ails are more psychological than political. some advice

    “You'll worry less about what people think about you when you realize how seldom they do.”
    ― David Foster Wallace
     
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    They ignore and forget us for anything meaningful. They trash, demean and vilify us just for their own entertainment but otherwise they wish we would go away. They want us to be forgotten. They want us to no longer matter.

    They want us to provide them their power, water and food but they don't want to ever see us.
     
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  8. mdgator05

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    How do you know that? Your feelings? They have a tremendous amount of evidence of him breaking multiple laws. So how do you know he is innocent?

    Obama and Biden were showing classified documents to people without clearance on tape, admitting that they aren't supposed to be sharing it? Can you provide evidence of this?
     
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    Yeah, that was a word salad. None of that meant anything. It is just generalized resentment. We get it, you hold a lot of resentment.

    Ultimately, you are correct in that we don't sit around obsessing about West Virginia. Beyond that, get over yourself.
     
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    "But by criminally prosecuting Trump you are politically persecuting me" I fixed it for you. Sorry but your hero is a convicted criminal and will be indicted and prosecuted several more times in the near future. You got duped, hoodwinked and grifted. Perhaps you could support DeS and prove that you haven't yet learned your lesson.
     
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    Why does Biden have all those classified documents in garages and cars completely unsecured? And why does he even have those classified documents from when he was VICE President and shouldn't have even had them. But yet I'm sure that's no national security risk in your opinion.
     
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    And he'll never ever step foot in prison. Trump supporters will ensure that by starting the Civil War, even if we have to sacrifice everything. How does that make you feel? Knowing that you'll never get what you want. Trump will never step foot in a prison and all you've done is make my support for him stronger.
     
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    You, or whoever wrote that, knows nothing about California water or California agriculture. 85% of the water consumed in California is from in-state rainfall and snowmelt; about 15% comes from the Colorado River.
    And California has the highest agricultural receipts of any state in the country.

    But don’t let facts get in your way.
     
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  14. mdgator05

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    You realize that Vice Presidents have access to classified documents, right? Let me know if you have any evidence of him intentionally removing those documents, showing them to people who actually can't see them, or obstructing authorities as they tried to recover them.
     
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    Answer the question. Why are classified documents in unsecured locations like his garage and his car? Whether he intentionally did it or not, it's his responsibility to take precautions regarding classified documents. Honestly I don't even really care because I want this country to burn so it can be resurrected but you can't have it both ways.
     
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    Trump is presumed innocent until proven guilty. Unlike most defendants, he hasn’t been jailed. He wasn’t even handcuffed.

    Reportedly, he has no travel or firearm restrictions. He just walked out and left the state on his private jet to a coastal blue state where he continues to accuse the U.S. government and sitting President of crimes.

    He was assigned a Judge that he appointed to office and if it even gets to trial, his jurors will be from a Republican, red state where he is a long time resident and in which he chose to live as his primary residence.

    None of this is what happens in third world dictatorships.

    People should think clearly about what they are willing to do for him. He could have pardoned the January 6th folks before he left office. He didn’t. He was looking out for himself the whole time. He is an ivy-schooled, trust fund guy and more of a coastal elite than 99.9+ percent of us ever will be.
     
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    Don't argue with cflGator83 because to use an old southern expression arguing with him is like trying to shine a turd.
     
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    Bullshit. I challenge you to go read the indictment, and tell me how no laws were broken. It's spelled our very plainly for anyone with a modicum of reading comprehension to follow, should they choose to spend 15 minutes or so reading it.

    This isn't some joke of a local civil suit. This is federal criminal court. I can assure you the burden required to achieve an indictment is significant.
     
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  19. mdgator05

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    Likely due to errors in packing while leaving office, same as Pence or just about any other politician.

    If Trump had cooperated and helped recover the documents, he would have been given the same benefit of the doubt that literally every other Democrat and Republican has been given. But he didn't. He actively moved the documents around to hide them, lied to his own attorneys about them, lied to the government about them, and then, on tape, showed them to people who weren't supposed to see them. I suspect that if you removed the names, you would understand the difference in those two circumstances.
     
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