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Lock him up! CNN reports Trump to be indicted

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by WarDamnGator, Jun 8, 2023.

  1. okeechobee

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    Surprised this isn't mentioned more... but not only is the judge a Trump appointee, this is the judge he hand-picked for his home district where he resides, which isn't a small detail.
     
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  2. gatorchamps960608

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    Trump ran up the deficit and national debt to the tune of 25% added.
    He wants to buddy up to murderous dictators and abandon our NATO allies.
    He wants American law & order to be in the model of 1950s Mississippi.
    His favorite part of American history is the confederacy.

    Tell me again how he's a conservative?
     
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  3. gatorchamps960608

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    Getting her hair done. Not a joke.
     
  4. flgator2

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    Lol, now you trust Barr
     
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  5. cflgator83

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    I'll admit Trump ran up the deficit. Unlike liberals who worship their politicians I can support a politician without supporting everything they do. With that said, how much of the national debt was during the pandemic? And who was it that was forcing an increase of the nation debt through supplemental unemployment, mandatory lockdowns and the shut down of the U.S. economy? Democrats had a lot to do with all of that.

    The vast majority of the deficit under Trump was during Covid. And it was Democrats who essentially forced him to. People like the Democrats on here would've ripped him apart if he didn't approve things like the supplemental unemployment. My biggest complaint against Trump is not getting the states back open a lot sooner.

    NATO is absolutely one of the worst things the U.S. ever did. An organization that we fund almost entirely and every other member country gets to piggy back off of us. Just another step towards wanting to try to force us into an E.U. type situation.

    I would love to see NATO dismantled and absolutely want nothing to do with that corrupt organization. NATO needs the U.S. 1000x more than the U.S. has ever needed NATO.

    I'm not going to say 1950's Mississippi law enforcement was great but the current war against law enforcement and the end of any type of proactive policing I would argue is just as bad.

    The Confederacy was far more American than 90% of Americans today. Slavery was evil, no doubt about that, but very few people in the Confederacy owned slaves. Even if the Confederacy had won The Second Industrial Revolution in the late 1800s would have made slavery completely obsolete. I'm not siding with the Confederacy and I don't doubt the Southern Slave owners and elite class were wrong for supporting slavery, but I will never condemn the entire South during that period for being evil. The Confederacy losing the Civil War and the subsequent stripping of any genuine state rights has a lot to do with the state of the U.S. today.
     
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  6. 92gator

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    Covid, anyone?

    (btw, I was dead set agaisnt that collosal, disgusting spending orgy, but I really don't think Trump could have prevented it).

    Xi hated Trump. Still does. He (Xi) represents the single greatest threat to the US of any world leader today. By far.

    (particularly positive, when contrasted against Chicom puppet China Joe).

    He demanded that they pay their share and carry their own weight, rather than the US footing the entire bill.

    That actually is pretty conservative.

    Please wipe the shit off these nuggets when you pull them out of your ass before posting.

    NB: to defy "defund the police" =/= militant authoritarianism.

    It's "Law and Order" for a reason--opposed to chaos and mayhem, mostly.

    linky?

    (i believe his favorite potus was Andrew Jxn bc he stood up to elites; never heard the CSA bit).

    America first, law and order, border integrity, energy independence,
    supports strong military, strengthened domestic manufactudring, strong foreign presence, strong economy, supports a conservative, strict constructionist judiciary, loaded the judiciary with such justices, and was thereby instrumental in overturning Roe v. Wade....

    Those are all pretty much conservative values.
     
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  7. AzCatFan

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    No. But he's not wrong this time. I read the indictment. Barr did too. Did you?
     
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  8. cflgator83

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    And how many people died due to suicide, depression or loneliness due to mandatory lockdowns by the Democrats in Democrat run states? States should have never been shut down. Democrats are the ones who have the blood on their hands for many of the Covid deaths.
     
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  9. ursidman

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    A conservative jurist’s thoughts on the matter. Good string of tweets to read

     
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  10. 92gator

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    Trump signed off on the 7+ trillion dollar spending orgy to fund the stupid shut down, and gave Fruadci carte blache feedom....

    ...and he's "grossly negligent"???

    Yeah, that should be my line---for signing off on the spending orgy, and backing Fraudci.

    Trump wasn't perfect, but some of these guys can't even get his weaknesses right.
     
  11. GatorFanCF

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    Did you really write this with a straight face? The DOJ dogged Trump PRIOR to him being elected and throughout his Presidency on BS rumors and tales of golden showers.

    Somehow NOW critiquing the DOJ is dangerous?
    J Edgar Hoover must be laughing in his panty hose. SMDH
     
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  12. okeechobee

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    If what he says is true, the part about "Trump could have returned those documents at any point in the year and a half up until his indictment and made it go away", then the charges should be dismissed. You can't undo a crime. What he's describing is a pissing match between the DOJ and Trump. That Trump could somehow undo a crime up until the eve of the indictment is a fascinating take.
     
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    I took him to mean it was his opinion that trump could have returned the documents like Pence and Biden and DOJ would have not gotten involved. He didn’t and then obstructed FBI searches and lied that seemed to set in stone the overarching crime. Cannot ignore those aspects.
     
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  14. okeechobee

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    Even if all of this is true, Luttig says after all of that, Trump could have still dodged the indictment. To me, that's Luttig (unwittingly) admitting this isn't that big of a deal. If you can literally undo a year and a half of crime by just handing over some documents, then it wasn't a crime to begin with.
     
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    Suicides decreased by 3% in 2020.
     
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  16. Sohogator

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    His weaknesses are legion. No one person can articulate them all. He is the weakest man I know of.
     
  17. ursidman

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    Or it’s a measure of how much deference the DOJ was willing to show the former president - a lot.
     
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  18. gator_lawyer

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    That's just because the suicidal people were intentionally catching COVID to kill themselves. ;)
     
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    Practically, I think when someone allegedly lies about acts and tries to cover up those acts, it makes intent more clear. Federal prosecutors have a reputation of not bringing charges they don’t think they can prove.

    Imagine someone accuses you of picking up something that doesn’t belong to you. If you hand it over when asked about it, it’s going to be a lot easier to argue that it was unintentional or a mistake.

    Put another way, if Trump just disagreed about whether he had a right to the records, why would he allegedly have moved boxes around and lied to his own lawyers?
     
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  20. cflgator83

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    Democrats would have forced Trump to do it. And you all on the left would have destroyed Trump if he hadn't signed the spending orgy that a DEMOCRAT CONGRESS passed.
     
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