Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!

Gallup poll on transgenders in sports

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by oragator1, Jun 12, 2023.

  1. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

    18,284
    1,570
    1,308
    Aug 24, 2009
    Ocala
    LOL!

    There is a reason 15 year old boys could beat the Women’s National Soccer Team.

    I have $20 your daughters could not even win districts agains the other girls in your district.
     
    • Winner Winner x 2
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  2. lacuna

    lacuna The Conscience of Too Hot VIP Member

    63,343
    3,716
    2,353
    Apr 8, 2007
    Redlands, Colorado
    I too, remember that same riddle. It immediately came to mind when I read the next to last paragraph in your post.
     
  3. tampagtr

    tampagtr VIP Member

    17,576
    2,821
    1,618
    Apr 3, 2007
    I obviously lied, especially to myself, saying I would not return to this thread.

    But a big issue in youth sports integrity of competition is fudged birth certificates. Many a parent has suspected that an opponent is older than the relevant age bracket. Especially if that opponent was born out of the country. And sometimes they are correct. I first remember this issue in what I believe was the 1972 Florida high school basketball championship, in which the winning team from Miami was found to have used some overage Bahamian players.

    Competitors on the other end, playing far older competition, are right to feel the situation is unfair.

    But if it happens, we look at whether the relevant governing body screwed up their enforcement in this instance, or whether there is a need to change the enforcement mechanism somehow. But we do that at the league level. What we don't do is engage in rapid multi-state legislation, with every congressional representative and candidate from one party stating that it's one of the two or three biggest issues in the country. And I would suspect that competitive disadvantage due to false age representations may be rare, but is far far more common then transgender athletes.

    That's why it's hard to believe that this is completely borne out of concern for competitive integrity. Sure that may be what motivates some people, but it's not why this is a big issue. Unless it was a stand-in for other culture war concerns that people don't want to articulate, it would never have that much staying power as a national issue
     
    Last edited: Jun 13, 2023
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Informative Informative x 1
  4. mrhansduck

    mrhansduck GC Hall of Fame

    4,821
    1,000
    1,788
    Nov 23, 2021
    Another thing you reminded me of. I don't think there are any height or weight restrictions in high school basketball or football, for example (as opposed to wrestling). But in a private football league in middle school, I had a friend who was the right age but was always on the edge of the weight limit. Guy had almost zero fat and was all muscle, and they had him out there running laps in garbage bags trying to drop water weight to make the limit. Not sure if they'd even allow that these days.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
  5. lacuna

    lacuna The Conscience of Too Hot VIP Member

    63,343
    3,716
    2,353
    Apr 8, 2007
    Redlands, Colorado
    One of my sons went through the same bizarre exercises when he played Pop Warner football as a 12 year old in Connecticut in 1984 and 85.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
  6. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    1. It was a typo. I meant to type "shut down". Good luck finding me using that type of language on this board. (Search feature if you dont believe me.)

    2. Our lady softball players arent hitting a 93 MPH splitty with movement. Otherwise you would see a female in MLB at some point over its 100+ years of existing.

    3. It isnt about them never competing. No one said that. I know HS girls that can beat a HS boy one on one in hoops. That's not the point. The point is that MOST women can not and forcing them to compete against a dude is just wrong.
     
    • Like x 1
    • Agree x 1
    • Disagree Bacon! x 1
    • Funny x 1
    • Winner x 1
  7. gator95

    gator95 GC Hall of Fame

    7,763
    857
    2,113
    Apr 3, 2007
    This isn't true at all. You know it, we all know it and are laughing at you. At least be honest enough to admit it.
     
    • Winner Winner x 2
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  8. Orange_and_Bluke

    Orange_and_Bluke Premium Member

    9,984
    2,387
    3,038
    Dec 16, 2015
    She is a dishonest poster.
    It’s not worth the time.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  9. jjgator55

    jjgator55 VIP Member

    6,198
    1,765
    2,043
    Apr 3, 2007
    You’re not laughing. You’re clenching your fists and stomping your feet.
     
  10. gator95

    gator95 GC Hall of Fame

    7,763
    857
    2,113
    Apr 3, 2007
    Nope, laughing with everyone else here when you tried to say your daughter was beating boys in HS Track. Too funny. You got called out making up stuff. Everyone here knows it's not true. But i love watching you try to defend the indefensible.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  11. jjgator55

    jjgator55 VIP Member

    6,198
    1,765
    2,043
    Apr 3, 2007
    Hey I know where you’re coming from. Girls should act like ladies, boys are always the hero saving the damsel in distress, supper on the table by six, bla bla bla.
     
    • Come On Man Come On Man x 3
  12. jjgator55

    jjgator55 VIP Member

    6,198
    1,765
    2,043
    Apr 3, 2007
    Really? When did this calling out take place because I haven’t seen it. Old man you need to stop yelling at the clouds and go back inside. Everyone is laughing at you.
    [​IMG]
     
  13. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    What??? Now you are just being insulting.
    So you think woman are being blackballed from MLB? Because I promise if one could hit . 300 and handle a Glasnow slider they would be welcome.

    It's insulting that you think I view my daughters and wife in such a chauvinistic way.

    Once again when cornered with something as actual as science you decide to fight nasty.

    Prove your point without some anecdotal story about your daughter outrunning a couple boys.

    Biology is biology. Women generally can not compete in the same sport as men.
     
    • Winner Winner x 2
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  14. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    Pretty sure we are younger than you lol.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Funny Funny x 2
  15. jjgator55

    jjgator55 VIP Member

    6,198
    1,765
    2,043
    Apr 3, 2007
    I’m pretty sure of that too. LOL!
     
  16. gator95

    gator95 GC Hall of Fame

    7,763
    857
    2,113
    Apr 3, 2007

    No one here believes your daughter was beating boys in track. The best part is you won't admit you made it up. We all know you did though. So that's the fun part for me, watching you defend this made up story.

    I'll make you a deal, you admit you made it up and I'll stop laughing at you.
     
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  17. jjgator55

    jjgator55 VIP Member

    6,198
    1,765
    2,043
    Apr 3, 2007
    So you want me to respond to your anecdotal story about your daughters to prove my point without an anecdotal story about my daughter. Okay.
    https://youtube.com/shorts/ZFEW2lVJrC0?feature=share
     
    • Come On Man Come On Man x 1
  18. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    I didnt tell an anecdotal story about my daughters. So there's that.

    I did say It was insulting to me that you think I view my daughters in a chauvinistic way. Which it is, because I do not in the least.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  19. jjgator55

    jjgator55 VIP Member

    6,198
    1,765
    2,043
    Apr 3, 2007
    You’ve suffered enough.
    [​IMG]
     
  20. tampagtr

    tampagtr VIP Member

    17,576
    2,821
    1,618
    Apr 3, 2007
    Interesting thread from a conventional cis woman that was and is "big" about her history in youth sports. And if you look at her feeds, she appears very conventional as an adult, though still "big", far along in pregnancy with her husband but still empathetic to the ostracism of the unconventional

     
    • Informative Informative x 1