More Evidence that "Centrism" is an Authoritarian Mindset

Seems like they are more just anti-Trump Republicans, rather than actually “centrists”. Otherwise it obviously wouldn’t make sense to consider backing Trump-lite candidates with similar disregard for democracy and rule of law. Desantis’ position on the debt ceiling and the migrant flight stunts both ought to be disqualifying for any “centrist” to even consider. Imo.

 

Can you expand on your comment "one where order and law matter more than say, democracy"?

 

No Labels exists to elect Trump by siphoning off independents from Biden. Bannon and Roger Stone are all up in No Labels for a reason.

 

Irrelevant. They are hijacking it.

 

I disagree with running a third party candidate because such candidate is likely to draw from democrats, and lead to a Republican nutjob winning. However I don’t buy the whole centrism = authoritarianism nonsense.

You have to have some degree of law and order to have democracy. Law and order doesn’t mean authoritarianism, although sometimes authoritarians will co-opt the concept.

 

I would say when then the citizenry loses its ability to self-govern, that is when law and order needs to step in to fill the gap. I'm not saying authoritarian rule, but some level of balance between utter chaos due to limited rules and outright authoritarianism. Finding that balance is key. It sounds like your use of the word "order" is based on some random assumption everyone will do what is right. That never works, especially in today's society when we are more selfish than ever before and less disciplined.

As far as No Labels goes, they have an interesting group of people listed in leadership roles. Joe Lieberman, Benjamin Chavis Jr., John Hope Bryant and Larry Hogan to name a few. I see that as very middle of the road, not authoritarian in any way.

 

Democracy is not junkies living in tents on the street. Democracy is not riots and looters burning cities down. Democracy is not have a city center taken over and occupied by a political group for days or weeks. Democracy is not people invading the capital. These are all things that inhibit democracy.

 

You're talking about "overthrow" and there is no balance, which is what I stated above, in that. To get back to your thread title, I do not see any of the people I mentioned above as participants in any kind of authoritarian organization.

 

No - no that’s not what centrists think

Mob rule is not democracy.

 

Rioting and civil unrest, resulting in damage to property and injury or loss of life, is unacceptable whether you lean right or left or sit in the middle. And no, as more of a centrist I would not think it is ok for Trump to stay, if based on the existing laws/rules he lost the election. The rule of law in this case would say he lost the election and must step down. And that should have been accomplished without rioting and civil unrest. Trump created the whole "the election was stolen" narrative. None of it was based on law and order.

 

You're in one.




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