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Lock him up! CNN reports Trump to be indicted

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by WarDamnGator, Jun 8, 2023.

  1. okeechobee

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    Do you hate life because you are constantly blowing a Trump-et?
     
  2. gatordavisl

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    Such rapid descension to victimhood. Accountability = rigged game?
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  3. gatordavisl

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    Your Trump schtick is funnier.
     
  4. BLING

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    They have no doubt already given him many opportunities. I would expect they offer him a deal. I’m not sure Trump will fess up or be truthful.

    Remember, this nut lied to his own lawyers to further this crime. His lawyers would have found and returned the documents. Trump lied to THEM. His own lawyers. Why?
     
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  5. Gator715

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    People acting like Trump has already been presented with the option of return documents or face indictment... seem to be overlooking the fact that the dynamic in negotiations change when you have a pretty damning indictment breathing down your neck.

    If this is really about the DOJ just wanting the documents in their proper place and not putting Trump behind bars, they shouldn't be opposed to that way out... even now.
     
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  6. okeechobee

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    I could be wrong, but I thought they already recovered the documents in the Mar-a-lago raid? Is there more he’s refusing to give up? (I honestly don’t know)
     
  7. Gator715

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    Good question.
     
  8. Gator715

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    It appears that way, yes.
     
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  9. VAg8r1

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    I would add one more condition, that he refrains from any involvement in politics including a promise not to run for elective office, not to endorse other candidates running for office, not to solicit funds on behalf of either himself or other candidates including political action committees, and last but not least speaking on the behalf any candidates for office or using social media to support candidates for office. I don't think I would prohibit him from soliciting contributions for a defense fund provided that the fund is administered by a neutral third party not selected by the Donald.
     
  10. mikemcd810

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    At this point, yes, but had he returned them when he should have he wouldn't have been indicted.
     
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  11. BigCypressGator1981

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    Yes yes, we are the mentally ill ones because we don’t support a twice indicted, twice impeached one-term LOSER who encouraged his band of miscreants to storm the capitol building after he lost.

    lol

    you’re a cultist.
     
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  12. BigCypressGator1981

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    You’re absurd. Breaking laws results in prison time. Maybe just quit breaking the law and this isn’t an issue.
     
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  13. Gator715

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    Thank you for proving my point.
     
  14. Gator715

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    Speculation speculation speculation.
     
  15. VAg8r1

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    The chances are that if he weren't a former president and especially one who is currently an announced candidate for the presidency he probably would have already been prosecuted, convicted and would be currently residing in a federal facility at taxpayer's expense.
     
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  16. Gator715

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    Same with Hillary Clinton.
     
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  17. ajoseph

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    But didn’t they try to get them first? Several times? And Trump still hid the documents and lied about their return?

    These are the points that push this indictment above the political, at least to me.
     
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  18. VAg8r1

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    Really? From an experienced former prosecutor who prosecuted a significant number of criminal cases in federal court.
    FBI director says "no reasonable prosecutor" would indict Clinton over emails
    While Comey probably should have refrained from expressing his opinion he was absolutely correct. His rationale:
    "In looking back at our investigations into the mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts," he said. Past prosecutions, he said, generally involved "clearly intentional and willful mishandling," "vast quantities of materials," or "indications of disloyalty to the United States or efforts to obstruct justice."
    I would note that in the case of Trump, the mishandling was clearly intentional and wilful and also involved large quantities of materials.
     
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  19. pkaib01

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    And we don't know if we have all the stolen documents.
     
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  20. ajoseph

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    Where did you come up with this argument? And, the indictment seeks convictions for convict above and beyond the maintenance of records, including obstruction.