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Results of the “Free Britney” Movement

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by uftaipan, Jun 11, 2023.

  1. uftaipan

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    Britney Spears' ex-husband Kevin Federline fears she is on crystal meth

    Sad situation. Bottom line is that her family now believes she has moved on to hard drugs and her life is in danger. I remember thinking to myself when the “Free Britney” movement was in full swing, demonizing her family for legally restricting her decision making, what if they had the right of this? What if this wasn’t a scam to steal her money? What if they know her better than we do and understand that she’s a brilliant performer but a danger to herself or others if left unsupervised? Maybe her fans, if they truly loved her, should have trusted the family and legal system that thought the restrictions on her freedom were for her own good.
     
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  2. GatorRade

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    This is really sad. That said, I am not sure I agree that it justifies restricting her freedoms.

    I wish I understood better the way in which someone is able to be put under conservatorship. It seems to me that this is basically something that should never be allowed without the consent of the individual. Maybe Britney will go on drugs if not under the control of others, but how is that someone else’s decision to make?
     
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  3. demosthenes

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    I don’t think drugs alone should warrant it except if her children still live with her (though that’s more of a custody mechanism rather than a conservatorship). I haven’t followed this closely at all but I vaguely remember there being some other mental disorders that may have supported conservatorship?
     
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  4. citygator

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    Ends doesn’t justify the means. She may be a nut but that’s her right. Sadly. If she’s a danger then there is a path for her to get “helped”.

    Moral ambiguity around mental health and homeless is in the same zone as this.
     
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  5. BLING

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    It’s a high bar, and I guess in a situation like this you need to let a person be free at some point to see if they are mentally capable. But at some point institutionalization or “conservatorship” is reasonable. If the meth thing is true, I’d say that qualifies. Most junkies on the street don’t have resources, maybe don’t even have family. Britney did.
     
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  6. tigator2019

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    In my head--- UF
    Federline- 6 kids from 3 moms
    He’s an alleged drug user as well
     
  7. tampagtr

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    It sounds like things went bad and perhaps she is in need of further legal intervention, but the prior legal intervention was totally unjustified and abusive. She was being nothing but exploited, not protected.
     
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  8. danmanne65

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    Her parents could be exploiting her financially and be hoping to keep her off drugs and her kids safe.
     
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  9. mdgator05

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    Yeah, situations like this don't tend to have a clear good guy/bad guy split. Could they have been worried about her doing drugs? Absolutely. Could they have been exploiting her financially? Absolutely. Could their worries about drugs be driven by the fact that they needed the income stream to continue? Absolutely. Could her drug usage be a result of the fact that she has been exploited by her family since she was a teenager? Absolutely. Could they actually care about her at some level despite all of this? Absolutely.
     
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  11. tampagtr

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    She has also denied it on instagram. I don't know what to believe. No responsible journalist seems to cover this beat. Anything you read is something you would normally be skeptical about, the way it's written. But those are the only people working this beat. And the fans are being the fans, dominating Twitter. So hard to know. But I certainly see reasons to be skeptical about the crystal meth story till confirmed
     
  12. l_boy

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    This is an example of people getting involved in a difficult situation based upon emotion and very little facts. From some of the things I read the guardianship was probably carried out in excessive and overly intrusive ways, but obviously she doesn’t seem to be able to take care of herself.

    I can identify with this because we have a daughter that seems to have some similarities to Brittany, stemming from mental illness and now substance abuse (meth). I doubt guardianship would be an answer though unless you were willing to forcibly admit to an institution of sort, and also pay massive amounts of money.

    We have an autistic son who can’t take care of himself. I looked into guardianship for him, and several attorneys said it can be very difficult because in some counties there is a bias against guardianship. At some level it is understandable but again we are dealing with idealistic people here making decisions for people that actually have to live with the practical consequences.

    It points to this bigger problem with mental illness and drug addiction. You have all of these homeless people in CA and other places, most of them so mentally ill or drug addicted they can’t take care of themselves. If they use fentanyl they will eventually die. If they use meth they are frying their brain and it can take months or years to recover. They literally don’t have the capability to help themselves. There needs to be some sort of forced intervention, preferably more of a long term higher security rehab environment, but not prison, although prison is probably better than doing nothing.

    Whatever your opinion on who’s at fault in Jordan Neely situation, that guy should not have been walking around the streets and subway free. He suffered from mental illness and drug abuse. He should have been in a long term secure recovery program.

    Letting these people hurt themselves and everyone around them is not compassionate to them or anybody else.
     
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  13. oragator1

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    I think Britney’s current problem, beyond whatever psychological illness she had that allowed the guardianship in the first place, is that she never had her teenage years as a girl. It’s not at all unreasonable to see someone like her going through that learning curve now that she can, just 20 years late. Be interesting to see where she is in a few years. Whether that maturity finally came with some true life experience or the underlying issues, whatever they are, are just too strong.
     
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  14. BLING

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    The-Sun is also a “gossip rag”.

    Funnily enough The-Sun is also another Murdoch joint. Maybe better have that checkbook ready again. :eek:
     
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  15. l_boy

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    The article is authored by a documentarian working with her ex husband on the issue. She seems credible.
     
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    If you read the article, and think any of it is true, it’s pretty clear it isn’t a function of just being immature. Some really odd, dysfunctional and dangerous behavior.
     
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    It’s also the ex-husband denying it. Wouldn’t be the first time someone was quoted and walked it back. The concern could be real but they didn’t want it out.

    That’s the problem with “gossip rags”.
     
  18. tampagtr

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    Yeah, that’s what I meant When I said there are no reputable journalists on this beat.
     
  19. l_boy

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    Where is he denying it?

    Reading the whole article it sounds like a shit show all around, and there are others who may have ulterior motives, including the ex, but really it revolves around whether this particular person who wrote the article and has close contact with the family is credible

    edit I googled and saw the denial. Not sure what to make of any of it.
     
  20. BLING

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    I think it’s from that poster that has like 100 posters blocked, so you probably can’t see his post.

    Kevin Federline Slams Report Linking Britney Spears to Crystal Meth