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Lock him up! CNN reports Trump to be indicted

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by WarDamnGator, Jun 8, 2023.

  1. docspor

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    preferably each other and leave everyone else out of it.
     
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    School children.
     
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    Outstanding, sir! :star:
     
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  6. dangolegators

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    Well I hope you're wrong, but you probably aren't. Still, some will finally say enough's enough. And this is the bombshell DeSantis and other Repubs running for the nomination we're hoping for, only they can't say it publicly.
     
  7. sierragator

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    sad, but probably true
     
  8. philnotfil

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    The Donald's take:

    The Trump Indictment has been unsealed - TheDonald

     
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  9. okeechobee

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    I’m guessing they’ll charge him on the Georgia election stuff too. What happens if he actually wins the election next November? Self-pardons are a given. I’m talking about how he handles his political opponents. Will be interesting, for sure.
     
  10. AzCatFan

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    DOJ has prosecutorial discretion. And with classified doc cases, the DOJ has been very consistent. Not only must the DOJ prove a law was broken, but also there must be intent on behalf of the person who took the docs to either hide them, or use them against the country. Fully cooperation with the Feds in these cases that include full return of docs and full access to search for more rarely, if ever, leads to indictments. Purposely hiding docs and lying about it on affidavits? That leads to charges.

    Bullshit. If anyone else had hundreds of documents marked at the highest levels and refused to return them when requested, they would already be in jail at this point. Trump was given more than enough time to comply. Instead, he lied and purposely moved the docs to avoid returning them. Again, read the indictment and ask yourself, if this was a high ranking military official instead of Trump, what would your opinion be? If you would want an indictment then, then why are you letting your eyes be stained by Trump's shit?


    [quote\Yes he did. Trump wasn't JUST charged with obstruction. And even if a case can be made for obstruction being the deciding factor in indicting, Hillary wiped her server. Still no charges.[/quote]

    Hillary didn't wipe her server. She deleted emails that weren't pertinent to her job as Secretary of State. All emails that were pertinent, she forwarded onto an official email account per the law. Besides, emails, like anything ever on the Internet, are never truly deleted. That's how they know what emails Hillary deleted. And if she deleted emails about Chelsea's wedding, should she indicted and potentially go to jail for those?

    On the contrary, Trump had docs about nuclear secrets and areas where the US might be vulnerable to attack! Chelsea Clinton's nuptials aren't a national security concern. Nuclear secrets are! Nobody should care of someone deletes emails about a wedding. We need to care when someone purposely hides a box of classified information that contains national security secrets that could put all of us in danger! If you are equating the two.....again, you blinded by a bunch of Trump shit. Clear your eyes.



    Please explain what Trump's ability to declassify documents before Jan, 20, 2021 at noon EST has on this case? If not, your statement, while true, is completely useless and meaningless. Obama once had the ability to declassify as well. So what?
     
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  11. mikemcd810

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    That's a very sobering thought. Put aside the question of legality. Why should anyone vote for this man and trust him once again with our more sensitive secrets after seeing how carelessly he was storing that information (in a ballroom where events were held!) and showing top secret docs to biographers and political buddies.
     
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  12. dangolegators

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    The kind of trouble some of your fellow MAGA patriots got into on Jan 6.
     
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  13. rivergator

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    Saw this posted elsewhere:

     
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  14. Gator715

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    I was already done with you, but I read the first line.

    Ya'll are about to learn all about prosecutorial discretion and I don't want to hear a peep.
     
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  15. Gator715

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    That seems like a pretty serious allegation based on me having a difference of opinion.
     
  16. 92gator

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    I'll be damned.

    Alan Dershowitz said last night that the indictment had better be Nixon level egregious.

    I totally agreed with his take.

    ...and totally didn't expect anything close to that.

    Alas...that flippn' indictment is nuclear.

    His attorneys were wise to bail; perhaps had no choice (according to the indictment, he instructed his co-conspirator to hide several docs from his attorneys).

    So fwiw, I guess I'll have to shift my position from 'banana republic political lynching', to 'wait and see how much of the indictment sticks/is proven'...

    But in the meantime, the allegations are most definitely egregious--hell, explosive!

    To measure it against Dershowitz's standard:

    Trump > Nixon

    ...by a country mile.

    So I can't really question the propriety of indicting here. To not indict, would fall somewhere between irresponsible, and reckless.

    Go ahead, y'all feel free to get your licks in. I suppose I earned it this go around, as I really didn't think Trump could be so incredibly stupid here, and worse still, I can't think of a non-egregiously nefarious reason for holding on to those docs, playing shell games with them, and lying and playing games with his own attorneys (taking the indictment at face value).

    Just a real shitty look for 45 there.

    Perhaps we aren't going 3rd world after all, and instead, our justice system may very well have served to prevent such.

    I'll take solace in that, even if it comes with a generous serving of crow.

    fwiw.
     
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  17. dangolegators

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    It's not an allegation.
     
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    Childish insults with zero content add nothing to adult discussions.
     
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    Bottom of a pint glass
    Respect
     
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  20. gator_lawyer

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    Sometimes, I forget just how dumb Trump is. Read an article about his charges. L-O-L. What a doofus.
     
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