So what? Does not disprove anything I said. And if this was done to negate the appearance of political influence, they did a pretty shitty job. Joe Biden mishandled the classified documents. "Forgetting" he mishandled them because he's a senile old man doesn't change the fact that he did the same thing. Again, does not disprove anything I said.
I agree. All of them seem to have an “I’ll do whatever the hell I want to” attitude about things and we probably would (to an extent) if we were in their position of power. All in all, I think it’s silly to charge an ex-president with this, unless they can prove he/she was willfully attempting to harm the United States by maintaining possession of the documents.
Coming from the side that has been looking for anything they can find on this man like blood hounds for seven years, this rings more than a little hollow. More like it smells like bull****.
Southern Baptist Convention .... https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati.../trump-indicted-charges-classified-documents/
She didn't wipe a server. Do you even know what that is? Her staff deleted emails with BleachBit, a simple email tool. It deletes emails from the server, as is done routinely by any company or government agency because the bloat of their high volume of emails on the server will slow down performance and cause emails to be missed due to byte limits being reached. Without doing this manually, you have to wit for the default server retention policy to expire for every email, which doesn't work for big companies, schools and government agencies because they have too many emails. This is exactly the protocol that Hillary's staff followed, as investigated and found by the FBI. The emails, according to Clinton's lawyer, were all personal emails, anyway, relating to her yoga and her daughter's personal life. And they were scheduled to delete before an investigation was made known and before the request for emails was made. That's all public record. And do you have any clue how email works? If an email is sent, it then resides in at least two different locations. Sender & recipient. Which means even if Hillary deleted all her emails with BleachBit, so they couldn't be recovered on her machine or server, they still exist in the recipient's email. Even if you delete off a server, the emails that were downloaded and read by the recipients still remain until they are deleted. They investigated all the recipients, too, and found nothing. Gowdy and the GOP made it sound like BleachBit was some sort of super-powered computer wizardry from the scientific labs of the Legion of Doom. All it does is delete emails from the server, for which you need a program because email client only give you access to deleting from your email program on your hard drive. If you were going to spend your whole life raging about this case, maybe you should have learned something about it first? And maybe apply some critical thinking...like, I don't know, if Comey and the FBI was trying to protect Hillary, then why did they torpedo her 12-point lead with 11 days to go before the election, taking all the heat off the Access Hollywood tapes and stoking the national distrust factor for all those people just looking for any reason not to vote for her? Either the FBI was protecting Hillary, and we all had an international hallucination about them giving the Congressional republicans the memo about Hillary having another computer to investigate (while concurrently keeping it a state secret that Trump was being investigated for colluding with Russia)....or you're all full of shiz.
Totally insane. But coming from someone who's been talking like he and his side are at war, I guess it's to be expected. You'd be well advised to let it all go before you get yourself in real trouble.
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So what? The level of documents matters. Many of Hillary's classified docs were classified after receipt. Others were discussing classified intel on drone strikes because the story broke on the NY Times, and was above the fold on their website. None of this information would potentially add to any national security danger because either the intel wasn't that important, or already in the public. Can't say that about Trump's intel. They DOJ did a shitty job in your eyes because you eyes are full of shit. Clear away the Trump stain and you'll see an Independent Investigator is the best way to handle cases like this. Read the full indictment and ask yourself if they were talking about anyone other than Trump, would you support indictment or no? If yes, then you'll start to wipe away the Trump stain. Biden absolutely did not do the same thing. He misplaced documents that were returned immediately upon discovery. Read the charges regarding obstruction around Trump. Can you say Biden or Pence did any of these things? The answer is unequivocally no. You stated Trump had the ability to declassify at the highest level. That's true. But he did not have the ability to declassify every document he had in his possession. And he lost his ability to declassify when Biden took the oath of office. And at that point, all docs were still declassified. Your argument that Trump once had the ability to declassify is a red herring and has zero bearing on the indictment.
I suspect a lot of MAGAs are going to come around like this, but obviously not all, as we see in this thread.
Some really specific details in this indictment. Someone talking? Or they have video or something? https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati.../trump-indicted-charges-classified-documents/
Does not change whether the law was broken. The question isn't if I would support an indictment, but the DOJ. And the answer to that is unequivocally "no." Yes he did. Trump wasn't JUST charged with obstruction. And even if a case can be made for obstruction being the deciding factor in indicting, Hillary wiped her server. Still no charges. Thank you.
Not even remotely the same as Hillary. Like leaving the store with a bag of ice at the bottom of your shopping cart that you forgot to pay for vs robbing the safe at gunpoint. Technically both people took something from the store they shouldn't have.
I suspect very few will. It is the politics of bored narcissism. This is a potential cause of cognitive dissonance. Thus far, there is not a limit to the ridiculousness of theories that Trump supporters will believe to avoid cognitive dissonance. That is how you end up with people who would not support the overthrow of government concluding that January 6 was done by Antifa, was a setup by the FBI, who is on the side of Antifa, and wasn't really that bad, all from the exact same people. It isn't about objective or even subjective analysis of the situation. It is about feelings.
