Lock him up! CNN reports Trump to be indicted

Wiping a private server isn't returning them immediately.

 

I'm sort of serious about the insanity thing, or at least diminished capacity. Exhibit A: hiding Top Secret files in a hotel bathroom. Exhibit B: everything else he says and does

 

The mishandling trope is typical of mainstream media wanting to soften discussion of crimes. It's no different from their refusal to describe Trump's comments as lies over the years.

 

The thing that stood out to me was Trump going through boxes after the subpoena, then juggling boxes in/out of storage before making only select boxes available to Trump's attorney to go through and locate/return documents. Just reeks of hiding stuff...

There's also allegedly some audio recording of Trump showing off classified docs to a few people... who lack clearance to be shown those docs.

 

I can’t believe you could say that, without having paid any attention to what happened in this country since Jan 6, and the shifting opinions since the overturning of Roe among the most critical republican voting block in the nation: suburban white women.

Trump will have at least four indictments when the peak of primary season rolls around. If Republicans nominate him, we don’t even need to hold an election. And anyone who has followed Ron DeSantis even for a few minutes outside of his Florida bubble when he has been able to fill the audience with his fans, knows that he has no chance whatsoever in a national election. He has no affability, he’s dumb, has no positive record to run on, and doesn’t have a shred of believable sincerity. Most of all, he doesn’t have what Trump had in 2016: a decade of a major television network propping him up as a brilliant global business tycoon, and cultivating a cult following through reality television.

Not to mention that outside of the state of Florida, the state of Florida is regarded in the lowest possible estimation in all categories. It sincerely hurts me to say this, but literally no one I have ever met outside of the state of Florida doesn’t think that Florida, and Ron DeSantis, are the most backwards and laughable state and governor in the country.

I don’t think it is at all hyperbolic to say that Ron DeSantis has zero chance in the national election.

 

From reading this and thinking about it more, his public defense (which is obviously not a legal defense, but matters for the sake of politics) is 100% going to be “this is the same thing Hillary did and they refused to charge her.” He’s gonna say it’s no different, he had paper copies of classified documents in a bathroom and Hillary had electronic copies in a coat closet. And he’ll probably be somewhat successful with it (as he either hopes no one remembers that half of his first campaign was asserting that she should be in prison for that, or contends that while he thought she should be in prison for it since she isn’t he shouldn’t be either).

Hell, one of the conversations memorialized in the indictment that partially gave rise to one of the obstruction charges was him telling an attorney “why don’t we just tell them we destroyed the documents, that worked for Hillary.”

 

Yes, the media has a history of "softening the discussion" on Trump.

Put the crack pipe down and get back to us when you're sober.

 

Far worse. Scientologists keep themselves and don’t try to hurt the rest of the country, or even control them. MAGAs are aggressively evil and want to deliberately hurt everyone that isn’t also a MAGA

 

Running true to form, I see. Ready to indict everyone except the one under indictment.

 

Clear that there are absolutely no circumstances under which the cult believes that Trump should ever be charged with anything, ever. Sounds like above the law to me. If it quacks like a duck......

 

The documents Trump had (at least the 31 he is indicted for) would *never* be emailed, and likely would require chain of custody type arrangement to even share them among govt officials with clearance. Although somehow Jack Texeira was able to log in and get some similar documents (digitally) with relative ease, which is another parallel matter.

Realistically, *nobody* is supposed to possess these level of documents outside govt and outside their need to know. It’s a defacto crime to take/keep/copy them. With intent to possess it locks it in. Motive could escalate to treason (which i think is the level of Teixera’s crimes, and I don’t discount the idea Trump also had some motives to use these documents, but to date I’ve not seen evidence of his motives or plans for the documents).

 

Is this a viable defense, in your opinion? To my unsophisticated (legally speaking) eyes, the two cases seem to be orders of magnitude different.

 

Nope. It’s been much lower in the Hoover days. I doubt it can get lower than that.

Your cult is the only cohort who have a low opinion of the FBI right now. And that’s just because MAGAs consider all law enforcement the mortal enemy. Driving around with your stupid blue line flag stickers, and not one of you care about any cops unless they’re murdering POC. When they do their jobs to prevent white domestic terrorist actions, they are the enemy.

 

There's no question Trump broke the law.

The issues here are as follows:
1. The Justice Department chose not to indict Hillary for essentially the same thing.
2. Joe Biden's Justice Department is targeting his chief political threat in the next election.
3. Joe Biden's Justice Department is targeting this threat for something that Joe Biden himself did.
4. Trump was the one who had/has the clearest declassification authority, and that apparently doesn't matter.

Anybody who believes in blind justice should hate this. And the saddest part isn't that this is happening to Trump, it's that this is the new normal. The biggest certainty of all of this is that this will not be the last politically motivated indictment. And that is incredibly sad.

 

Liberal hubris is a hell of a drug

 

The opposite. I don't think Hillary should've been indicted.

Or if she was indicted, then Trump as well.

 

1) Hillary was wrong and gamed the system
2) you realize if you had it in email, it had to come from somewhere else and isn’t the document per se, nothing to return. Right?

 

It's just like the mainstream media's refusal to call Trump a POS. You know that Jake Tapper wants to do it.

 

Fair, but wiping the server isn't being cooperative. Quite the opposite.