Vinay Prasad a Progressive Explains Reality (DeSantis)…

So again, who should I listen too? The educated who know more than me? Or the unwashed masses who often listen to they want to hear and disregard the rest?

 

So what you’re suggesting is to ignore the medical community’s advice regarding medical issues. Brilliant. SMH

 

Wow, an awful lot of doctors must be recommending obesity. That is your logic here. There are lots of obese people, so their doctors must be recommending it.

 

But your evidence is that people aren't taking it. And lots of people are obese. Therefore, using your logic, their doctors must be recommending obesity.

Also, about 2/3 of people don't regularly go to the dentist. It is amazing how many doctors are recommending not to go to a dentist regularly.

 

Just for clarification, what are you defining as :

1. Boosters? - I actually agree with you that if you have been fully vaccinated, there is little proof the boosters provide any benefit other than a short term boost in neutralizing anti-bodies. A testament to just how effective the mRNA vaccines are and continue to be, no matter how much the anti-vaxx crowd hates it.

2. Doctors? - the largely speciliazed GPs who continue to do dumb cr@p like give people anti-biotics for viral infections? Of by doctors, you mean actual infectious disease experts?

3. Show us your proof that "many doctors" are not recommending boosters?

In fact, every doctor that I know advocates for boosters for their patients that meet certain demographic requirements. Every one. I suspect, the only ones who do not are the one's who are so politically poisoned that they gave up on the Hyppocratic Oath a long, long time ago. Just like your "bought and sold boy" Vinay. He is making millions off from insurance companies by lobbying against new and (often expensive) treatments for people who little or nothing else to lose. I am sure Hyppocrates would be very proud of someone more worried about what insurance companies spend than whether or not they can help their patients.

 

Silencing a voice is a bit dramatic Q.
But you are into year #4 of this and no ones bending and we have a thread for this already.

I never said you should be silent, I asked why and at what gain?

 

You do realize these are doctors, nurses, and hospital associations that recommend talking to your doctor don’t you? Of course you don’t. Well by all means continue to get your medical advice from YouTube and Facebook.

 

I am not. Most adults don't go to the dentist every year and a very high percentage of Americans are obese. By your logic, doctors must be recommending both of those acts. It couldn't be that people don't all engage in pro-health behavior, even if their doctor does recommend them. I mean sure, that would bridge the gap between survey results in which doctors overwhelmingly say they recommend the Covid vaccine and a low rate of vaccination, but that wouldn't be good for your point. And, as we all know, all of this is about you, not an actual examination of data in pursuit of accurate information.

So feel free to defend your logic (people don't do pro-health action X, therefore, doctors don't recommend pro-health action X) in a general sense (which requires you to admit that doctors must be recommending obesity and not going to the dentist), admit that your logic is faulty, or fall back on talking points to avoid either. We all know what you will choose. Which is the real reason very few choose to engage with you substantively any longer.

 

So how do you know doctors aren't recommending the shot again?

 

No, this is totally your logic. People aren't taking the shots, so doctors must not be recommending them is your logic. Apply that to other areas of healthcare. There is large chunk of people who do not regularly see a dentist. Is that because dentists aren't recommending it? Or, are people not listening to their dentist and doing their own thing? Could the same also be true regarding the vaccine?

We also dropped the ball when it came to seroprevalance and natural immunity. We didn't track it. Had we, then maybe public health officials could have given out recommendations based on past infection. But with an inability to track who was sick and when on a large scale, this point became moot. Even so, when all the data points to hybrid immunity being the most effective, public health officials still would have recommended getting the shot. It lowers the risks while being extremely low risk itself.

Last, you think these shots are dangerous? 5.5 billion jabs, and where's your evidence? And I'm not talking a single anecdote or two, but with 5.5 billion shots, it there significant danger, it would be extremely difficult to hide. Because even at .1% having issues, that's 5.5 million people.