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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. duggers_dad

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    Two and a half years on, from vaccine rollout, actual deaths vs. projected deaths in Alberta, Canada. FYI: Alberta, just to be extra safe, jailed pastors for holding worships services in 2020-21 …

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  2. QGator2414

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    To think so many on here were propagandized to demonize people like you and me for providing them facts. The cdc and public health idiots knew all of this. We knew the aerosol virus was far smaller than smoke particles. We knew masks were nothing but virtue. But they ate it up and crazier...still do to this day.

    And they ignore the people who provided them evidence at the beginning and were right all along. You can't help stupid.
     
  3. AzCatFan

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    Facts? Like the one study Lapado literally deleted when he published his child vaccination recommendations? What about those facts? By the way, deleting them for his report is an actual case of propaganda.

    Scientific facts require others to repeat the same actions and get the same results. This often does not happen. And when there is no repeatability, the next step isn't to pick one conclusion or study and call that the winner, disregarding all other results. No. It's to continue to do research to figure out why the results were different? What variable(s) account for the difference in results?

    For example, the one study that showed vaccine risk of myocarditis is greater than infection relied on mostly VAERS data, which isn't reliable, since it's open source reporting. All other studies done have relied on more accurate data, and all clearly show the risk from infection to be significantly higher.
     
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  4. QGator2414

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    LOL!

    Again...Ladapo has been right on this far more than most. In fact he was right to not recommend kids take the shot. Big Pharma has you my friend. Unfortunately Big Pharma has more power in the US than in other countries. It is probably why we continue to push idiotic policy from public health. Thankfully the doctors on the ground clearly are not listening as the numbers prove this.
     
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  5. duggers_dad

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    “Scientific facts require others to repeat the same actions and get the same results.”

    Maybe one day virologists will try this.
     
  6. philnotfil

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    Do you believe Ladapo ignored data in arriving at his conclusion?
     
  7. AzCatFan

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    No. Lapado was wrong. He ignored data that didn't fit his agenda. He literally deleted it from this recommendation. And since his recommendation, all data from every study done has shown that the risk from infection is far greater than the risk from the vaccine.

    The problem is public health has become political. And there are those out there willing to take the money and say what the unwashed masses are wanting to hear, instead of telling them the truth.
     
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  8. gator95

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    Not a fan of Ladapo but to think he's the only person who ignored data in arriving at a conclusion seems a little funny to me. Do you hold the CDC to the same requirements? How about Fauci? Walensky? Because I can show facts about all of the above ignoring data regarding covid to fit their narrative. Let's at least be honest about this.
     
  9. duggers_dad

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    People all over the world in 2020 …

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  10. QGator2414

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    No. I believe he was trying to get out the proper message to benefit the public the best he could.

    You do know that his position is basically that of the rest of the world...right?

    The few here on too hot and the idiots we have in public health up in washington can't let big pharma down!
     
  11. QGator2414

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    You do know that Ladapo's position is that of the rest of the world basically...right?
     
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  12. AzCatFan

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    Not true. Most countries recommend vaccines for all 12 and older, including Austria, Italy, Australia, China, Canada, the US....
     
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  13. philnotfil

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    We have his work file, with the tracked changes showing he deleted data from earlier versions of the report.

    Ladapo's position is not that of basically the rest of the world. You need to expand your media diet. You are only reading and watching news that agrees with you, and moving further away from reality.
     
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  14. HeyItsMe

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    I mean, we all know this except for those with a clear political agenda and angle. The fact that he accuses others of falling for propaganda when he continually supports a schmuck like Ladapo is hilarious. Ladapo is the walking definition of spreading propaganda to the rubes who want to be told what they want to hear.
     
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  15. duggers_dad

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    The only difference between people on this thread and Lapado: Lapado doesn’t believe the non-existent virus is quite so pernicious.
     
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    Let me know when you call out Fauci, the CDC and Walensky since you seem to want to call out people who were spreading propaganda.
     
  17. QGator2414

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    You just posted an article from Nune of 2021. We are in June of 2023 Az lol!!!
     
  18. QGator2414

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    Yes it is. He recommends young healthy people not take the shot. Most of the world at this point is only focusing on high risk groups.

    You need to expand your media diet…
     
  19. AzCatFan

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    Can you link to an article that these countries have changed their recommendations? Probably not. Especially since 2021, all data points to infection for this group being more dangerous than vaccine. And heads of health departments tend to follow the data, not delete it.
     
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  20. duggers_dad

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    Infection cannot possibly be more dangerous than the vaccine for two reasons: (1) there is no infection and therefore (2) vaccines are more dangerous by default.