California to Prosecute Desi?

I am mocking Obamacare advocates who would indicate that new revenue that didn't exist before would basically bridge the gap as far as balancing cost and revenue.

Florida's budget is golden, why are ya'll giving DeSantis shit for "wasting money."

 

Citizenship, borders, and immigration are all Federal issues per the Constitution. A state stepping in and transporting immigrants without permission from the Federal Government is a jurisdictional issue, and against the law.

I also doubt that transporting these immigrants to blue areas is going to change immigration policy at all. They might generate headlines that cause MAGA people to laugh, but when these immigrants land, they get taken care of by local charities, and are assimilated into the local immigrant population. Does anyone care about the Martha Vineyard immigrants anymore? What happened to them anyway?

The only long term solution is a Gang of 8 style guest worker law. Florida will realize then when their undocumented work force shrinks even more. A lesson that Arizona, Georgia, and Alabama learned the hard way then they passed their own anti-immigration law about a dozen years ago.

 

• (Eric) Adams (New York- (D)) has alluded to a plan that would relocate some of these migrants to different places across the country, but has yet to reveal key information, saying in a recent press conference: "Please don't ask me which cities because I don't need you running to the cities and stopping them. I know you enjoy pitting cities against cities, so we are not giving you that information."

Breaking the law is the only factor that matters now guys. Get ready.

 

It's not breaking the law if the Feds move them with permission from the immigrant and the receiving city. The Feds have jurisdiction, and many immigrants would be happy for a ride to a different area of the country, away from the border, where they may have friends and/or family they can stay with. Or a large metro area with a bigger contingent of immigrants from their home country already settled in the area.

 

New York City mayor announces plan to transport willing migrants to locations outside the city ahead of expected surge | CNN.

New York City Mayor Eric Adams announced Friday the city will ship willing migrants to other neighboring New York communities.

“Despite calling on the federal government for a national decompression strategy since last year, and for a decompression strategy across the state, New York City has been left without the necessary support to manage this crisis,” Adams said. “With a vacuum of leadership, we are now being forced to undertake our own decompression strategy.”

Should we indict Adams as well?

 

NYC Mayor Adams plan buses migrants past county with 'immigrant protection' law to Republican-led counties

 

Wow, its really working to change the law and increase border security like you said. The "you're a hypocrite" argument always works in politics. Must be why conservatives have come around on the ACA, they all realized they were hypocrites for not supporting the Heritage Foundation's idea. Or like how you've totally changed your mind when people pointed out you like big government.

 

"The Florida Division of Emergency Management on Tuesday confirmed the state was behind recent migrant flights to California..."

The Hill

 

Even if the media reports are admissible in court, that doesn't prove that he was behind any fraud or misleading of the immigrants.

 

You're confusing poor appeals to hypocrisy with accurate appeals to hypocrisy.

Hard to argue that you're a safe haven for all immigrants (legal or illegal) and that illegal immigrants are always a benefit to the economy when your state/city can't support them so you're shipping them out.

The conversation quickly shifted away from what's "practical" and "effective" and towards "empathy" which is one of the other trump cards that appeal to emotion rather than logic.

 

Not sure we should indict any Governor. But if Adams, like DeSantis broke the law, then yes, if you indict one, you should indict the other.

What we should really do is follow the two bipartisan groups that met respectively in 2007, and again in 2013 as the Gang of 8. Both groups presented that the most logical answer is an expanded guest worker program with a possible pathway to citizenship.

 

Illinois mayor blasts Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot's 'hypocrisy' after migrants shipped to 'Republican suburb'

"The Republican mayor of a suburban Chicago town is calling out Windy City Mayor Lori Lightfoot after over 60 migrants were shipped to his town and dropped off at a local hotel.

After being bussed from Texas, 147 migrants arrived in Chicago on Wednesday, according to FOX 32. Sixty-four of those migrants were then taken to a Hampton Inn hotel in Burr Ridge, which is outside of Chicago, where they will be for at least the next 27 days."

 

I hope you're ready for pretty much everybody to get locked up, including Lori Lightfoot, (see above).

 

Oh, if they were only accurate, that's the problem. C'mon. I'll give you a piece of wisdom here, the person or persons being charged with hypocrisy have already reconciled it, its the accuser who hasn't.

 

Here's another great option.

Trump or DeSantis abolishes ICE, and withholds the Feds from enforcing any immigration law, confusing the Hell out of Democrats.

Then, Republicans send illegal immigrants in increasing numbers to sanctuary cities. Then, the sanctuary city/state is presented with the following options:
1. Stop being a sanctuary city/state
2. Pay as much as you need to accommodate all of the immigrants
3. Ship them somewhere else and be prosecuted yourself.

Now THAT sounds like an effective way of changing policy.

 

The intellectual equivalent of "he who smelled it, dealt it."

 

Well, you can join the libs in bashing your head into the wall screaming hypocrisy and wondering why nothing changes.

 

I'll take my chances.

 

https://www.npr.org/2022/09/16/1123521033/marthas-vineyard-migrants-sent-to-cape-cod

"Authorities in Massachusetts are moving the dozens of migrants who arrived earlier this week in Martha's Vineyard to Cape Cod.

The office for Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker announced Friday that the state's emergency management agency relocated the migrants to Joint Base Cape Cod."

That doesn't sound like the Feds to me.

 

Ok, they've been doing this for a couple of years now, and no one has even come to the table to do anything, and we are seeing a thread about potentially prosecuting a governor. Maybe a few more flights will do it!