Border crossings down 70% since ending Title 42

Both parts. They still have the right to seek asylum, and if they show up to a port of entry and request asylum, they are here legally.

 

Never understood how they're getting accurate numbers on people that cross the border illegally.

 

Man the jobs jobs jobs and now this. Tip of the hat to Joe!

 

Well Kim Kardashian is a lawyer so… OTOH she’s thoughtful, well spoken and from all appearances can spell.

 

Yeah, they can also legally moonwalk across the border, but that’s not what we’re talking about is it? Nobody said anything about them be illegal to request asylum. The first country of asylum rule is well intentioned and logical. Mexico, like the U.S., provides asylum, so you have to ask yourself if a Nicaraguan steps into Mexico seeking legal asylum, he/she would have a nearly impossible burden to prove asylum in the U.S. So while they may be here legally, which is why I said “likely illegal” they have little chance of beating the presumption of illegality. (Assuming rules are followed). They likely will be turned away.

 

That's not at all a correct understanding of how the law works.

 

I think you are caught up on the term illegal alien, which isn’t a legal term. While a rebuttal presumption is not to the level of a prohibition, i.e. “against the law” it is close enough for this discussion. In context, what I said is correct. No Peruvian, walking across Mexico, should ever be allowed to seek asylum in the United States if the laws are followed. But technically, you are correct, no illegal immigrant who comes here without a legal basis is ever going to be arrested and charged with anything.

 

That's not correct understanding of the actual statutory law on the books. And I am caught up on you saying immigrants who are coming here and following the law are "illegal" or here "illegally." That's not correct. Until they are required to leave the country and refuse, they are here legally.

 

Move along, niothing to see down on the border!!!

 

That is not true as I understand immigration/visa applied mostly universally in free countries. The default is not legal, it is illegal. You need permission to enter just about every country. Passport and Visas. The migrants are visiting temporarily, so they need visas to enter country. If you fly here from China and land at LaGuardia, and you do not have a passport, they will not let you in the United States. You will be stuck at the airport. One exception is seeking asylum. But both US law, (and I believe international law) require an asylum seeker to seek asylum in the first country that offers it. You’re typically not allowed to pass through a country that offers asylum.

 

I thought no one was crossing anymore?

 

Guess you don't understand what 'down 70%' means then.

 

I think many including me are disputing the "down 70%" number.