DeSantis--School Vouchers For All!

Close to 23 billion.

 

I thought that was for Communists?

@wgbgator

 

Those who vehemently oppose vouchers believe that the state knows what's best for children more than parents.

 

If you're too stupid to comprehend my post, at least get rid of the snark. You don't want to look like a complete jackass. Or maybe you do. Who knows.

 

LMAO.

Now do the teacher's unions who have been in the back pocket of Democrats for YEARS.

 

No. It's a belief that professional educators . . . those trained and licensed to teach children in the U.S. should be supported to do the job. The state's "job" should be to support school districts financially and oversee academic/teacher license standards.

What do you think the consensus is among education experts on vouchers? Why?

 

Wingers, parents should be in charge, oh wait not those parents. Damn libs can’t be parents!
Now lets open a bunch of schools at mosques, right?

Whoever rides in planes should be in charge of design. Engineers, pfft

 

And in NC: Fiske and Ladd: North Carolina Is a State at Risk

The Legislature is now poised to expand the earlier Opportunity Scholarship program, which had provided public funds for low income children to attend private schools, into a much larger universal voucher program that would make all children eligible regardless of family income – at an estimated cost of more than $2 billion over the next 10 years.

Given that private schools are operated by private entities typically with no public oversight and no obligation to serve all children, why in the world would it ever make sense to use taxpayer dollars to support private schools?

A common argument has been that voucher systems raise achievement levels of the children who used them. While some early studies of small scale means-tested voucher programs in places like Milwaukee showed small achievement gains in some cases, recent studies of larger voucher programs in places such as Ohio, Louisiana and Indiana consistently show large declines in average achievement — often because of the low quality of the private schools that accept vouchers.

Supporters also argue that vouchers provide more schooling options for children and that having more choices is a good thing. But in the context of education policy that need not be the case. Americans support public education – and make schooling mandatory – not only for the benefits it generates for individual children but also for collective benefits such as the creation of capable workers and informed citizens. What matters is the quality of education for all the state’s children.

 

In many cases that is true.

 

Your concern is that if parents have the option, they will send their kids to schools unqualified to teach them.

In other words, you think the state knows better than the parents.

 

Hey, I appreciate the honesty.

 

Do you disagree with the statement?

 

In the vast majority of cases, yes.

Are there exceptional cases where parents are so negligent with their kid and so damaging that government has to intervene, yes. But those cases should be held to a bare minimum because parents generally have a right to raise their kids as they see fit.

 

Every kid is special. Parents should decide who plays in sports. Harry and Lloyd can continue to make policy.

 

This is akin to labeling public schools "government schools." It's a disingenuous argument. I'll say this . . . educational experts know what's best when it comes to educating America's children.

P.S. Have you provided ANY evidence supporting vouchers or are you just toting the party line?

 

How?

They're public institutions run by public officials, that are limited by Constitutional restrictions on government.

Sounds an awful lot like a "government school" to me.

 

Another bit of scholarship on the issue:

https://thehill.com/opinion/educati...-more-states-should-not-seek-school-vouchers/

School vouchers are a taxpayer swindle that fails to raise achievement while eroding public schools and the principle of equal protection under the law outlined in the U.S. Constitution. If more states adopt school voucher systems, most parents will find their top choice — a neighborhood public school — largely defunded and unable to recruit and retain high-quality teachers due to a transfer of funds into unregulated private schools.

Americans from all backgrounds have fought to gain access to public schools, including freed slaves, immigrants and people with disabilities. These struggles have led to a free universal public education system that propels each child into our democracy, communities and economy. Public schools also serve as community hubs where neighborhoods gather to vote, watch sports, participate in townhalls, among many other public events.

Vouchers jeopardize all of this because they transfer money from public schools to individual parents through grants, savings accounts or scholarships to pay private school tuition. It is a system where self-interest replaces the common good, culminating in separate education systems for children living on the same street in the same community.

Voucher supporters say parents know what is best for their children, but that is not necessarily the case. As education researchers, we know that voucher systems have led to significant declines in student achievement for voucher users in Louisiana, Indiana, New York City and Washington, D.C., especially for low-income students. In a study on the effects of the Louisiana Scholarship Program — a large voucher program established in 2008 and expanded in 2012 — researchers found that students participating in the voucher program were significantly behind their peers in reading and mathematics after four years.

Another interesting bit from the article - The Parental Rights Act ("Don't Say Gay") does not apply in the private schools that would be supported by these vouchers. Quit getting hoodwinked and inform yourselves, pubs.

 

Shouldn't this make you happy?

If a liberal family wants to put their kid in a school that wants to trans the kids, they'll get help in doing that now.

 

There are a lot of really bad unaccredited private schools in Florida. And there are a lot of bad parents who sending their kids to these schools. That is their prerogative, but the state should not be encouraging it by giving bad parents money to send their kids to bad schools.

 

It's a label used by people who have been duped by their elected leaders. Now . . . about that evidence, or are you just here to tote the party line? I'm welcoming something of informed substance from you on this issue.