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DeSantis--School Vouchers For All!

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by dynogator, Jun 5, 2023.

  1. gatordavisl

    gatordavisl VIP Member

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    He's not an idiot, or at least that's what people on here (even the lefties) claim. He doesn't care if it's the right thing for schools, children, or their parents. He's got his own vested interests.
     
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  3. wgbgator

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    Coming soon to Florida:

    Ex-teacher at Ye's Donda Academy says she was fired after parents complained her class had no books

     
  4. Gator715

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    And that's the quiet part out loud.

    It's about relatively centralized control over education, even if that way is not what the family wants.
     
  5. littlebluelw

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    Kinda late to the thread but does this part of the statute limit who is eligible? I mean the WP article is paywalled and its an opinion piece so going to the actual text might be warranted.

    From the bill text (its only 115 pages long!)

    2. Priority must be given in the following order:
    a. A student whose household income level does not exceed
    185 percent of the federal poverty level or who is in foster
    care or out-of-home care.
    b. A student whose household income level exceeds 185
    percent of the federal poverty level, but does not exceed 400
    percent of the federal poverty level.
     
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  7. G8trGr8t

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    As I understand it, there is no new money, any money will come out of current funding for public schools, leaving them with a shortage as the building doesn't care how many people are in it and the bus routes will not get shorter and reducing students per teacher will not reduce the number of teachers required. Same fixed costs, less state funding = increase in local taxes.
     
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  8. WC53

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    Just another shill game
     
  9. gatordavisl

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    Absolutely wrong. You fail to see the harm done because you either haven't a vested interest in public school education, know next to nothing about it, or both. Your statement about appeal is entirely false. Public schools follow state standards. They require that teachers be certified in the specific subjects they will teach. They represent what is good about the United States. To claim that the whole appeal is that it's free is hogwash.
     
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  10. gatordavisl

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    Holy shit take off your partisan hat for a moment and recognize that several of the posters on this board are very knowledgeable about education, be it private, public, or charter. The people arguing against this horrible policy actually care about the quality of schooling in the U.S.
     
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  11. gatordavisl

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    It doesn't work that way. Your tax dollars are specifically devoted toward educating children in the U.S. Why? For the greater good of society.
     
  12. wgbgator

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    So you arent made about losing all that power and influence public schools(!) had ... in Florida (!) ... until just now lol. Big Sugar & Public Schools used to run things here, no longer. :)
     
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  13. Gator715

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    Then people will just choose to go to public schools and the public schools will get the money right back.

    And if they won't, then how exactly are public schools "better?" Because the people don't seem to think so. And that includes a lot of these hardcore public school advocates if you judge them by what they do rather than what they say.
     
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  14. Gator715

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    As though I don't.

    Here's what I've observed: Upper class liberals love to talk and brag about how great public education is, but when push comes to shove and they have the resources to choose between sending their kids to a public school or a private school, they pick private school.

    I'd rather follow what the elites are "doing" over what they're "saying."
     
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    Elites want their kids to go to school together without those other pesky distractions….

    Much like all the data breaking down school success by income brackets and zip codes.
     
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  16. Gator715

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    Yeah, it's all just a country club. Educational standards, values, and upbringing have nothing to do with it.:rolleyes:

    Since you guys have it all figured out, I suggest you take the principled stance of sending your kids to public school in spite of the voucher program.
     
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  17. gatordavisl

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    You think it's a tit-for-tat? IOW, you think 8k is going to fund a child's private schooling?
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  18. dynogator

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    That's fine, and that's their right. Are they asking the government for tuition assistance? Therein lies the problem.
     
  19. Gator715

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    It helps.

    And I shared earlier how public schools in Florida spent around that per student in the late 2010s.

    Now that doesn't include infrastructure and all sorts of other costs, but it's a ballpark that helps.

    And if you think it's not a lot of money, then this policy shouldn't be that big a burden on the public school system. You can't have it both ways, you can't say on one end that you're crippling the public school system by taking this money away from the public school system, while simultaneously the money isn't good for anything when it's reinvested for literally the same purpose in the private sector.
     
  20. Gator715

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    What problem? How is school choice a problem? Since when do you guys have a problem with policy helping one group of people while neglecting another, especially when that "other" is just a wing of the government? Since when do you guys have a problem with "handouts?"
     
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