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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Gatoragman, May 31, 2023.

  1. Orange_and_Bluke

    Orange_and_Bluke Premium Member

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    Firstly I need to say this. I think you are a kind hearted person. I also think we aren’t that far apart in this discussion.
    What sets us apart is our personality. You want to see the best in people.
    I don’t want to risk seeing the best in every person. The reason I won’t take the risk around some people…is because I have children who are impressionable and vulnerable.
    The reality is…all people cannot be trusted. You and I both know this to be true.
    People will always notice differences, clues that tell us about how a person views the world. It is a strength not a weakness.
    I will never put my child around someone I believe has dangerous potential. You can question me all you like. My wife and I agree. My very liberal in laws agree. You shouldn’t let your guard down around certain types.
    That doesn’t make me racist, homophobic, bigoted, hateful or whatever.
    It makes me a cautious, intelligent and loving parent.
     
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  2. Sohogator

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    This is a short little word salad of nonsense. Speaking for myself an atheist - I have no God.
     
  3. AzCatFan

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    There is a fine line between cautious and bigotry. I watch my kids like a hawk around anyone I don't know. But I also don't prejudge people based on appearance only unless that appearance is not age appropriate. I guess we just draw that line in a different spot.

    We have been told we can be anything when we grow up. Women can be sports stars and even President. Why can't a man be a Fairy Godmother's helper?
     
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  4. jjgator55

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    Apparently the left and Jesus have the same God then. Jesus had a lot to say about helping the poor.
     
  5. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Good post mostly.
    A man can dress as a woman. They will get looks by some. If you go against the grain, people will always notice. I don’t really have a problem with it. I draw the line of making it seem normal around my children though. I mean I don’t have to say anything about it. My kids know it’s not normal. They aren’t hateful and we do not say anything to make anyone uncomfortable. We just avoid the entire situation.
    It might make you feel better to know I am cautious around everyone. Weirdos come in all shapes and sizes. And some are just easier to spot than others.
     
  6. ridgetop

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    People get judged in appearance all the time. And there is nothing wrong with that. It’s why we advise people to dress for the job they want, be clean cut and put together for interviews, why I don’t wear big baggy drooping clothes when I fly. And this gentleman can absolutely be a fairy godmothers helper… more power to him. But we all use societal norms to one extent or another to help make order of our world. And parents of young kids who see him as such are also welcome to be cautious due to him not fitting any societal norms. We use those norms to help make order of our world. People who purposely live outside the societal norms are very often dangerous.
    That doesn’t mean all are dangerous or that this hairy godmother helper is dangerous. It does mean every parent has a right to be causations of anyone that moves and lives out side of societal norms
     
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  7. Orange_and_Bluke

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  8. UFLawyer

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    Can you explain why you and so many others claim a person “fears” a hairy Princess Bob just because they disapprove of the behavior. Is there a new meaning of fear that I am not aware of? Along those same lines, what the hell is transphobia? It’s not like arachnophobia or the other legit phobias… genuine question here. Why can’t we just use the Queen’s English?
     
  9. UFLawyer

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    I’m stealing this! LMFAO
     
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  10. ridgetop

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    It’s an easy lazy way to change the parameters of a debate
    If you don’t believe/accept the gay lifestyle you are homophobic
    If you do not support trans activism in the schools and parks you are transphobic
    And there is no argument. You get labeled what ever the other side wants to label gou. Look at this thread alone. Despite numerous posts to the contrary certain people still get labeled as fearing, transphobic, afraid of… when it’s not close to the truth.
    Disagree with, do not do done, do not support …yes. Fear? Phobia. No
    Lazy misrepresentation… much like calling someone racist because they want E verify to be used by all employers.
     
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  11. citygator

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    Seriously? What if I don’t “accept” or “believe” Christian lifestyle? I don’t want to hear Merry Christmas or even see you wearing red and green. That’s as offensive as the rainbow. I dare you to have Santa drink a Bud Light! I’ll boycott that all day long. Seems silly but there you are.

    Right wingers cry buckets if someone says seasons greetings because its deemed as a war on Christmas.

    But gay? They should hide everything about it because it offends you apparently. No rainbows, no dude fairy godmother helpers, no kids shirts supporting pride month. It’s virtually the same thing you guys claim you are are fighting for but it’s not. You want CONFORMITY to your ideas. Nothing else.
     
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  12. AzCatFan

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    Disapprove is one thing. You disapprove of people putting ketchup on a hot dog. But at a picnic, are you going to tell your kids to avoid ketchup eaters? Or, would you tolerate the behavior, and allow your kids to interact with ho dog ketchup eaters?

    For some reason, you won't allow your kids to interact with Princess Bob. You disapprove of the behavior to the point you think your kids interacting with him would cause problems. That's what you fear. And honestly, I find it quite irrational.
     
  13. ridgetop

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    You will notice that I said the hairy godmother above is absolutely in the right as is Disney to dress how he wants. And others are in the right to as our him if they want.
    Do you boycott Coca Cola? Pretty sure Santa has been drinking it for decades.
    Where were you when the left boycott CFA and tried to keep them out of airports?
    No one is forced to support any company they dont agree with. It’s a freedom .and it’s nothing new for either side
    Conformity? Please just leave me and mine alone and I’ll leave you and yours alone. I didn’t demand the guy be fired. I don’t demand everyone hold to my definition of marriage, drug use, alcohol consumption. I also do t want others demanding I accept condone admire lifestyles I deem dangerous or outside the social norm. That includes priest, politicians, school teachers and influencers … the bane of society.
     
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  14. ridgetop

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    For some reason you won’t let your little girl interact with someone you do not know who is clearly living and acting out side of societal norms. How dare you! Your kids should be so lucky to be submerged in the abnormal lifestyle of a complete stranger…
     
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  15. citygator

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    I’m sure the righties would react well to the squad trying to push how corruptive Christianity is and all references should be pulled out of stores, schools, libraries.

    This is only 5 months old.

    Christmas canceled: Parents and media go after holiday traditions, 'It’s getting annoying'
     
  16. middleoftheroadgator

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    A question popped up when I read a hurtful comment by another poster, NOT YOU. What does your best friend think about the new FL laws concerning trans youth? Would your friend have to move to continue care for his child? I think you mean well so I apologize for some of my comments. I am guilty of being black or white when these situations are some of the grayest of all. No one size fits all the answers. That is one of my main issues with some of these laws. There are way too many variables from family to family to have the government mandate anything.
     
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  17. UFLawyer

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    So I am afraid of my 28 year old son interacting with Hairy Godmother in training a/k/a Princess Bob? Ooookayyyyyy. The amount of thought I have put into my son interacting with Bob is 100x more than the time you put into answering my question, which is nil. Strive to be a better teacher.
     
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  18. UFLawyer

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  19. AzCatFan

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    Enjoy moving goalposts? We're talking a hypothetical 5 year old daughter. I'd hope your adult child could make his own choices, unless he has a mental disability that I'm unaware of. If so, I'd hope you'd allow him to interact with Princess Bob.
     
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  20. tilly

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    1st, No offense taken at all my friend.
    2nd. I assume he would not like the laws, though he has not considered transitional therapy for her. (She is 16).

    We are in NC so in all honesty outside of this board I dont keep up with Florida law much anymore.