Grifters gonna grift

Nothing enrages me…..other than those cotton balls in aspirin bottles. You can never get all the strands out of the bottle.

 

D Day was a bunch of men. No women. All the men I know/knew were heterosexual (to the best of my knowledge-cause I never asked) based upon my discussions with them and their lifestyle. I had three in my family alone. I have never heard of a drag queen, trans or gay person hitting Omaha Beach. Have you? Share their names because I would love to read about those hero’s stories.

 

do you think that women didn't contribute to the effort to get those men there?
do you honestly believe that of the 160,000 men that stormed that beach that none were gay? seriously?
I thought critical thinking was required to be a lawyer.

Women at war: Backstage heroines in D-Day's 75th anniversary | AP News

In short, women were vital cogs in the Allied and Soviet war machines that eventually overpowered those of Germany and Japan. Women were also on the front lines of horror and suffering, with countless numbers subjected to mass rapes by advancing soldiers who often carried love-letters and keep-sakes from sweethearts waiting back home, millions of whom became widows.

The success of the massive air- and seaborne D-Day invasion, commemorated across Normandy this week , was the culmination of a monumental Allied war effort that, from the outset, needed the muscles, intelligence, bravery, fortitude, patience, discretion and self-sacrifice of women, who juggled wartime service with child-care, too, while men fought to free foreign lands.

In the aftermath of the Dec. 7, 1941, Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor that precipitated the United States’ entry into the war, U.S. government fliers told women: “You are needed ... NOW.”

“We must depend upon you — upon womanpower,” exhorted a recruitment flier distributed in Mobile, Alabama, in February 1942. “Every housewife should ask herself and answer this question: ‘Can I be of greater service in my home or in a war plant?’”

 

I will say this again. No women participated in the D day invasion, other than a single female reporter, who obviously was not carrying a gun. This does not mean that women did not support the invasion through other means. One could argue that women were just as important as men in the success of World War II. I certainly would make that argument, as most people who understand history would. But that’s not what the topic was.

Second, I am not aware of a single homosexual, transsexual, gender bender, drag queen, pan sexual, bi-sexual or any other sexual other than heterosexual that landed on the beaches in Normandy. I am very well read in World War II history, and I am not aware of any publication which discusses this topic. That does not mean there were no homosexuals in the 101st airborne, but it also means that there’s no evidence that they’re were homosexual’s in 101st airborne or any other division that landed in France that day. I am not going to assume anything.

but let me make this point perfectly clear. I don’t give a rats’ s ass what anyone’s sexual preferences are today or in the 1940s. More importantly, if you are going to jump out of a metal boat in 15 feet of water with multiple machine guns trying to kill you, I don’t care if you wearing a dress and high heels and go by the name of Lulu, you are still a hero and deserve all of the recognition that comes with that.

 

Although they were obviously in the closet there almost certainly a number of gay soldiers who hit the beaches on D Day.
‘American Veteran’ Honors the Many Faces of the U.S. Soldier (Published 2021)
Coming Out Under Fire: The Story of Gay and Lesbian Service Members | The National WWII Museum | New Orleans
LGBTQ+ in World War II | The National WWII Museum | New Orleans
while I suspect that you will probably find it hard to believe given your apparent prejudices drag was actually an acceptable form of entertainment for soldiers serving during the Word War II with the some of the performers actually being servicemen.
GIs as Dolls: Uncovering the Hidden Histories of Drag Entertainment During Wartime | The National WWII Museum | New Orleans

 

I could not read the New York Times article, because I do not have a subscription, and I absolutely refuse to pay them for any of the garbage that they often write. I did read everything else. I did not learn anything new from what you posted, but thank you for sharing regardless. This does not change my contention in my post. While there is little doubt that there were some homosexuals serving this country during World War II, as your own reference material points out, if they were discovered, they were kicked out of the service. Therefore, it would be a reasonable conclusion that there were very few gay people serving in the US military during World War II. As for the drag shows, I do not believe that those shows back in the early 1940s were drag shows as that term is used today. Keep in mind, that they also did a lot of black face back then as well. Soldiers often dressed up as women as a joke, not as a kink. There is a very big difference.

in summary, I would also like to point out that the articles that you posted as references are very poorly written, because they do not cite to any reference material contained within the article itself. In other words, as my original post indicated, I’m not aware of any main stream books or publications on the subject matter of homosexuality in the armed services during World War II with necessary reference to testimony/interviews of actual soldiers. More important, there does not appear to be any writings that are even remotely contemporaneous with the events. This tells me that it is likely, but not necessarily certain, that people are trying to rewrite history or take liberty with facts. I try to read anything and everything related to World War II, so if anyone has any recommended resources on the subject matter, I would love for you to share them because I would like to educate myself on this topic.

 

This is proof that slavery and the war in Vietnam were good things.

 

I know you’re tongue in cheek, but just to be clear, not my point at all. We can be enriched by having others here even if the origin story is indefensible

 

I wonder why someone would for for this hot-garbage.

 

You are equating the violence of Jan 6 to the violence of May 2020 and the next several months? Don't make me laugh.

 

It's not the what, it's the where and the why.

Have there ever been civil unrest riots in cities?

How many assaults on the Capitol to stop a presidential election have there been?

See the difference?

 

That is terrible. Need a few national articles telling people this is a horrible ratio. And a rip off. Scumbags.

 

The right needs to stop trying to equate the two. Like they are the exact same thing. STOP IT! Once we do that we can dissect both incidents without Red and Blue Glasses. The summer riots were bad. Let's treat that as a separate event. Let's go over where the Left screwed up. That's fair. Yes? Then, we start a separate discussion about Jan 6th. No one is allowed to bring up the other event in the thread. Is that possible?

 

Read the post I was responding to....."beating men and women LEO". You don't think George Floyd rioters fought with LEO? https://www.policemag.com/patrol/ne...fficers-injured-in-summers-protests-and-riots
Once again are you equating the violence of Jan 6 to the George Floyd so called protests?

 

You "STOP IT!" I will tell you the same thing I told the other poster.....read the post I was responding to. It wasn't me who brought Jan 6 into the discussion.

 

My point is simple. If we all can agree that each event is independent and the root causes are different; maybe we can have a serious talk about both.

 

And my point is even more simple. A person that you agree with brings up Jan 6th and the beating of male & female LEO. I question if he is equating the thousands of injuries to LEO during the Summer riots with one incident. I didn't bring J6 into this, it is not my side that harps on everything j6.

 

Grifters gonna grift (especially in America), whether some group affiliated with the BLM movement, or the MAGA movement.

Neither are acceptable.

 

When anyone starts obsessing about the almost irrelevant BLM, you can tell they've been sucked into the Trumpist propaganda cyclone likely never to return.