Looks like weird and evil stuff could actually happen at Disney. Libbies care more about the perps than children. Sad
I could say conservatives aren't being honest and looking to get a rise out of liberals for entertainment. Maybe that's true maybe it isnt. Like I said, I assume most people are saying things they mean, and its easy enough to tell when they are just being provocative for the sake of being edgy or trigger people.
If we shield the kids away from porn, then they won't become sexual themselves? Almost everything you post, you attempt to draw wild conclusions from an innocuous statement. More often than not, one has nothing to do with the other, and no one ever suggested otherwise, except you. You are not engaged in a conversation or argument, you are engaged in mental masturbation. Please clean your keyboard accordingly. I didn’t take my kids to drag shows because I thought my kids would turn into drag queens. I didn’t take them to drag shows because I thought they were gross. Let me put it into terms that maybe you can understand. The same reason you don’t take your kids to Trump rallies, is the same reason some people don’t take their kids to drag shows. You’re not special. We all have freedoms.
I don't take my kids to drag shows. I also don't try to pretend they don't exist, and I wouldn't turn away from a man in a dress working at Disney. And to your point, we can try and shield our kids away from sexualization, but no matter how hard we try, kids are going to mature and become sexual creatures no matter what we do. Puberty is natural. So is a percentage of the population being trans. We've tried to hide them away and not talk about it, but trans culture and trans people persist. Attempting to shield our kids away from this truth isn't the answer in my opinion. Talking to them in age appropriate way and explaining that different people exist in this world is a much better option. I'm not telling any parent not to take their kids to a drag show or not. Or a Trump rally or not. If you find drag shows gross, that's your right. And your kids, your choice to where you take them. But if you happen to run into someone in drag during your normal course of a day, how do you react? Do you turn away and try to shield your kids? Or do you talk to them, on an age appropriate level, and try to explain what they are experiencing? I choose the latter. I believe knowledge is power, and I'm not scared for my kids to understand there are many different kind of people in this world, with many different beliefs, many different tastes, likes, dislikes, etc. And regardless of these differences, we should at first, try and treat people, all people, equally, until if and when we get a reason not to. I see a man in a Fairy Godmother dress working a store at Disney, I'm going to treat him just like I'd treat a woman doing the same job, in the same dress.
My kids are all grown and out of the household. I don’t disagree with a lot of what you’re posting, but I do disagree with your conflating civil kindness with moral acceptance. I taught my kids to treat everyone with kindness, and much to my surprise. They grew up following that path. However, being kind to someone you meet in public, does not mean that you have to accept that person’s appearance, quirks, kinks, or anything else about that person as normal or something that you approve of. They are not the same thing. Some people will claim that is being judgmental, and maybe that’s a good way of looking at it. But just because you want to wear six earrings in your nostril, and have a giant tattoo of a pomegranate spread out across your face, does not mean that I have to accept your appearance and/or behavior as normal. I will say hello to you, I will hold the door open for you, and I will otherwise be pleasant to you…. But I am not going to think you are normal (for me). But, I will also fight for your right to be abnormal in appropriate forums (which is 90% of the time). Kids and the presence of kids is the wildcard. When my kids are present, I try to expose them to my normalcy, so I’m not going to surround them with drag queens because that will normalize that behavior in front of my children. I think that’s the way most adults/parents look at this.
It’s not always easy to tell when people are being provocative. I’d say you have a way of always taking the other side to an argument… almost like clockwork.
There is no one that you would try and steer you daughters away from based on appearance? People you may be nice too and tolerant of, but just dont really want to be engaging with your kids? No one? Guy with 20 face piercings and a hatchet tattooed on his face? No one? Any desire to keep someone from being right in your kids face is bigotry?
What do you think about my post? What do you agree/disagree with it? Peoples ratings have nothing to do with the fact of the matter. What about my post do you take issue with?
Treating everyone the same is a start. But not everyone here has admitted they would treat a man in a dress the same way. They have admitted that if it's a woman in a Fairy Godmother dress at the store, they would enter. A man in the same dress, they turn away and do not. Unless there is something truly age inappropriate, I find this behavior deplorable. And a man in a dress who is fully covered is never age inappropriate. It's just a guy in a dress. And you are free to make your own judgement. As am I. As are your kids and my kids as well. I try not to judge the book by the cover, and get to know people before passing judgement, and have tried to instill the same in my kids. And certainly, what I judge as weird and not a look I'll ever go for, are things my kids tend to accept at a higher level. And that's fine. As I have told them, different isn't bad or good; it's just different. Fact is, humans are diverse and complex. A person covered in tattoos might be the nicest, kindest person in the world. And the guy wearing a business suit, clean cut, could be the guy you don't want to leave alone with your kids.
When all your likes are from a bunch of anti-trans posters, that might mean you aren't as tolerant as you may believe. You open to that possibility? As to your other post, comparing a dude in a dress to piercing and tattoos? Let's just agree to disagree.
This was largely debunked a year ago. A former lifeguard sent graphic pics to a girl. Two IT types from a corp. office solicited. 108 arrests in Polk County, Disney employed nearly 200K in the area. Surprise... right wing wacko media strikes the gullible again, and again, and again... ad nauseum.
I am not sure why you find it deplorable if a parent does not want to expose their child to a man wearing a dress. If that parent does not believe such conduct is normal, then it is certainly acceptable for them to make that decision and not expose their child to it. That is not for you or me to decide. That is a parental decision.
You dodged the question. What issue do you have with my post aside from not liking someone who gave it a rating? Also you should probably double check the leanings of some of those ratings. Not all are as you say.
I think the logic goes something like this. Middle: "715 hates trans people" Tilly: "All people are equal." 715: *Likes Tilly's post.* Middle: "Tilly's post is transphobic because 715 likes it and 715 hates trans people." The premise is the argument. And the premise is we're all terrible people. "715 hates trans people, you hate trans people, conversation over."
It makes no sense. Its like if I post that I dislike John Calipari over on NBN and a Tennessee fan agrees that somehow makes me a Tennessee fan. It's just weird "logic". And @ursidman is hardly a anti trans poster and not a righty either. He is actually one of the more rational and fair posters on this board...so not sure why his opinion is discounted when evaluating the ratings on my post. And lets remember that some cons here consider ME a libbie and a RINO (even though Im not even a Republican any more) and I get plenty of red bacons from those guys. So he talks about kept company, but I'm not sure what company it is that I even keep lol.
I think that because you are "nice" to their face you think you aren't being bigoted even though you said you would keep your daughters away and avoid them. They are just existing. In no way, are they hurting you by existing. You are "devoted" to your beliefs. You literally fit the definition of it. You bolded the hatred part, that isn't necessary to act in a bigoted way.
