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Interestingly, the mom that shot the video in Anaheim thought the workers did a great job and her daughter had a good experience. Other folks were the ones freaking out online.

Male Disneyland employee in dress as a 'Fairy Godmother apprentice' causes outrage | Daily Mail Online

 

So, let me see if I can summarize this post. Morals are wrong, and you’re really stupid to try to teach your kid morals because when they get out in the real world, nobody else has morals and your kid will look like a fool and may get upset. Is that a good summary?

 

Yeah, you would prefer it be your analogy. The problem is that your analogy is avoiding a particular product (misogynistic rap music) not a group as a whole, which you do here.

It absolutely can be if that influence is based on nothing more than group membership. Again, you have admitted that you would view somebody who said "I don't want my kids around black people" would be a racist, which is a specific kind of bigotry. You are doing the same thing for trans people.

You are intolerant of them as a group. Specifically, you apparently think they shouldn't be anywhere near your children due to group membership. It fits the definition.

So they picked up that you are generally intolerant but we're willing to, in a specific circumstance, put up with them. As whb pointed out, hiring a person to do a job doesn't mean that you are either tolerant of them in general/not bigoted. Basically, if that person had gone up to your kids and talked to them as part of their previous job before you hired them, what would you have done?

Just a model employee who wouldn't be allowed around your kids due to group membership?

"Exposed to it" being members of a group. That fits the definition of bigotry that you provided. Despite the person being a model employee, they weren't worthy of talking to your kids due to their group membership.

 

I’m curious, how is this relevant. If the mother had had a horrible time and complained about it would your post have been “mother had a horrible time therefore the person was horrible?” I think not, because you would have rightfully formed your own opinion.

 

Will you avoid that Moe's with your kids to make sure they don't interact with this person? Not every racist in the world went around screaming the n-word at people.

 

Now your just getting insulting.

#1 not many racist people hire people they are racist against.

Its a losing battle for you. I get it.

Argument #1: You mistreat and hate a certain group.
Response: No I do not. I treat everyone the same even if I disagree
New argument #2: no you dont. Disagreeing with them is mistreatment.
Response: No it isnt. Mistreatment is mistreatment. I have a history that disproves you. Here are examples.
New argument #3: Oh yeah... Well .. some bad dude once did something bad and claimed it was good. So you're probably like that guy.
Response: um... What?

Silly side argument: Parenting is silly. Just let your kids do and see everything since they eventually will anyway.

 

Yes, usually the protection is from immediate danger or harm, I remember my parents keeping us at arms length from an older guy that was a friend of my Dad's that took an interest in children. He was just a nice lonely guy, no kids of his own, had money he wasn't going to spend on anything else. But there was no chance my parents were letting us around him unsupervised. I cant remember my parents ever saying you can't go here or there because there might be someone different, they sent me to public schools after all. They didnt want to shelter me, we went on church trips to other countries and did mission work. They generally honored movie ratings, but I had already heard all those words and about the bad things in those movies at school. Ultimately, I think that was just as much about their comfort as it was ours.

 

Great post and great job. There is rarely a reason to be rude to people …. Unless they are wearing an FSU shirt. All bets are off then.

 

I mean my kids go with me to that moes all the time. What's your point? Now that they are older and more age appropriate conversations can be had I want them to see me treat him the way a human being should be treated.

So basically if I have this straight, a bigot is anyone who protects young children from conversations a parent may feel are too mature? Geez you guys should just rewrite the whole dictionary.

 

Disagreeing with them is not bigotry. That is a straw man. Nobody has argued that. Saying your kids can't be near members of a group is bigotry. Even if you are willing to personally interact with them. It is a bit like somebody in the 50s saying that they don't mind black people, just don't want them at schools because they don't want them around their kids.

 

Just a piece of information, that’s all.

No need to get your panties in a bunch. The point being that no everybody thinks that this is a sign of the apocalypse.

 

No, a bigot is somebody who treats people as a group with intolerance. One way to do that is to say that members of a group are unable to be near your kids due exclusively to group membership.

 

Panties? That seems sexist and misogynistic. Did you just misgender me? That seems really racist.

 

Thank you, but now the whole group of normal suspects will show up and talk about how racists have a "black friend" or only say the N word in private and somehow try and lump me in because i wont 100% agree with them.

Ooops. Too late. Someone already has.

 

Here’s the dictionary definition:
bigotry
noun
big·ot·ry ˈbi-gə-trē

plural bigotries
Synonyms of bigotry
1
: obstinate or intolerant devotion to one's own opinions and prejudices : the state of mind of a bigot

Not going into a gay bar isn’t bigotry, it’s a preference, but refusing service to a person because they’re gay is. The bakers refusing to make a cake for a gay wedding was within the baker’s rights, but that doesn’t make the baker any less bigoted.

 

I think people definitely put aside their prejudices when they need someone to do work for them. I remember a Rod Dreher column about how he couldnt believe his dad who he found out was in the KKK did work for black people and treated them professional. This country would have fallen apart a long time ago if they couldn't. There just isnt enough labor to hire only the people you approve of socially or whatever. I'm not trying to be insulting to you, other than just to point out that you patting yourself on the back for hiring someone who you disapprove of means very little, this is quite literally someone who made you money, its not some kind of selfless act. Congratulations on putting your own profit ahead of all else, that's what Target, Disney or all these companies are doing with "Pride" stuff too. They are doing exactly what you are.

 

Bad at logic and summaries, I hope you are better at chasing ambulances

 

It is nothing like that. Nothing. Transgender issues tend to also mesh with sexuality and more mature subjects.

Questions that I will gladly discuss with my now older kids but didnt feel were appropriate with my 5 and 7 year olds wearing their Belle and Tinkerbell costumes at the Magic Kingdom.

Why cant you and I disagree on what is age appropriate but still not consider it bigotry? How hard is that man? Geez.

 

Do associations based on one race, sex or gender, to the exclusion of others, fall into your definition?

 

Because saying that your kids can't be around trans people or gay people or black people is dictionary definition bigotry. I know that isnt how you would like it to be, but it is. It fits the definition you provided, very clearly. It is a version of intolerance against a person based on group membership.