Disney You support?

You keep telling me what analogy to use because you want one that fits your narrative. I used the right one for MY point.

Keeping someone from my kids does not make one a bigot. Trying to not allow influence on young kids that a parent deems appropriate is not bigotry.

You are watering down the word.

Definition of BIGOT :
a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices
especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (such as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

You have to remember. I am one of likely a very small number here who once hired a transitioning person. This was uncovered during background screenings. No one would have ever known had I just chosen another candidate, but this was the best person for the job. I treated them with fairness and kindness. I am open about my faith so I think they were hesitant at first too.

This person was a model employee.

I was able to do all that as a boss and a human being and still not want my young kids being exposed to it.

 

So, using your logic, I assume you’re terrified of Trump. Are you gonna be OK? Do you need some safe space to go hide in? SMH

 

For a lawyer, you don't seem very good with logic

 

These are all really bad analogies to this scenario. This is one individual person you are talking about. If a person goes to a “gay bar” presumably they are there to get picked up, so a straight person avoiding that scenario is in no way bigotry. If you avoid a ghetto, you aren’t avoiding one person (even though there might be racial demographics at play), you are avoiding an area and avoiding crime.

This would be more like avoiding a Publix cashier or something.

If you avoid a Publix cashier because they are black. Would that make you a racist? I’m pretty sure everyone would acknowledge that.

Now pose the same question on this one. If you avoided a Publix cashier because they “appeared” gay, would that make you bigoted against gays? Well… actually…

Now there are certainly extremes to ponder. Like I’m sure most people would avoid a crazy street preacher and would also avoid some trans activist making a lot of noise. That wouldn’t necessarily make that “normie” bigoted against Christian’s nor against LGBTQ, it just means they want to avoid crazy obnoxious people.

 

The cant shelter kids mantra is nonsense.
Of course you cant, but a parents job is to raise that child with the morals and convictions they hold to and to protect them from what they can.

At the moment my daughters (19 and 17) are pretty darn liberal lol. I raised them to be their own people. But to love and tolerate everyone. (Like Jesus did). Especially those who we disagree with.

Most of their liberal leanings come from a deep compassion that they feel for people. And I can completely live with that.

What I did not want though is those same girls who loved Disney princesses immensely as young girls to have that dude greeting them.

And thats ok. As long as I didnt teach them to dislike, mistreat or hate that person than my disagreement is not one of bigotry.

Simply saying "come on baby, lets walk over here and see what inside this other door" and thus avoiding the situation is 100% the norm for a parent when they think something is not suitable for their young children.

My kids are 12, 17 and 19 now. I wouldnt avoid the door at all these days because they are mature enough to have the discussions with.

Age appropriate objections are not automatically "bigoted" regardless of the watering down of the word that some try and portray.

 

Let’s use your logic on other costumes. What if he was wearing a white hood like the democrats did in the 50s? What if he sported a small square mustache, wore a red arm band and acted like he was German? What if he wore blackface? These are all costumes. Do you have any standards, or are you truly so enlightened that you see the good in everyone?

 

You know racist white people hired black workers and said the same things and didn't want their kids around their kids or whatever. Why do you imagine you are different than them? You can hide behind religion?

 

Maybe that’s the point smart guy. Claiming that somebody is “afraid” of a dude wearing a dress, when they express their opinion disapproving of that conduct is a bit ridiculous. Not approving of public behavior is not akin to being afraid of the behavior. There is no logic in that. Try harder on your next post. Thanks.

 

Dudes in dresses and makeup might be the world you want to see.
We get it.
Don’t be shocked if over half the country isn’t interested. Lots of democrats find this behavior off putting to put it mildly.

 

See I dont agree here JJ. That doesnt equal bigotry. (Unless you really water it down.)

Bias? Perhaps.
Bigot? No.

Again, are you a bigot if you say, I wont go into a gay bar? Or is that simply not how you prefer to spend your evening. That is a bias, not bigotry.

Bigotry has become a weaponized word. Over used and watered down to bully people into submission.

True bigotry is hateful and harmful and violates everything from man's laws to Gods laws.

Our biases though, which is what I believe you are actually describing is simply the nature of individual thought.

 

The point was unless you lock your kids up, they are going to be in the world. They are going to see people different from them, and have to interact with them (especially if they go anywhere where there are a lot of people, like a city or college campus). If they spent their whole lives hearing how those type of people were evil, deviant, predatory, and they are just behaving like other people, that might cause some confusion too right? And we dont want to confuse children, that's what you said you wanted to avoid. Luckily, many people have such experiences and realize their parents or churches were wrong, misguided, bigoted or prejudiced in some way. But certainly some retain it and act accordingly, seems like this is what guides the legal crusade for bigotry. So they have something to say and stand behind: "we arent wrong or misguided."

 

I did not know that. You seem crack full of knowledge. Do you think you could provide me the contact information for these racist people, or the companies that they worked for so I can call them and give them a piece of my mind. Thanks.

 

Are you really comparing Trump, inciter of insurrection and all-around threat to democracy, and some guy in a costume at a theme park?

You bet I'm terrified of Trump. And there's really no safe space where he's concerned.

 

A little anecdote if I may. Because i think people create an image of posters that is hard to shake when all we see is topic based conversation.

At our local Moe's there is a kid that is clearly male but either transitioning or at least identifying as female. But sort of half way if that makes sense.

This kid is really scrawny and small.
We go in there about once every week at the about the same time and this kid is always in there. I noticed how quiet and sad this kid seems to appear. Never makes eye contact etc.

Bigotry would lead me to ignore or mistreat this kid. Pile on to the mistreatment that his face tells me he already gets... Really show him what i think ya know?

But i told my wife that my goal is to make the kid smile because they look so sad.

The last couple times I have done it. Got a small laugh here and there.

Last night I walked in and noticed when the kid saw us he walked over and engaged us in conversation. Clearly remembering us from the weeks before.

I feel a deep sense of compassion for this kid. I think society has lied to him and that the creator lovingly created him for a purpose, but none of that allows me to treat him poorly or add to his pain. In fact I believe as a Christian I am called to do the opposite. I should let him see the light of my faith, not the darkness that some improperly portray our faith as.

That is the difference between disagreement and bigotry. That is the living out of Jesus words telling us that the one without sin should cast the first stone.

I have given multiple anecdotes of my day to day treatment of folks that i disagree with. If some of you want to still call me a bigot, so be it... But consider installing a mirror in your office because your inability to at least respect that pov says something about you.

 

Nah, I think your point was to take the equivalent of a big wet fart

 

Why? Are you going to tell them to keep up the good work?

 

I mean its just nonsense. Every parent protects their kid from something. You suck as a parent if you don't. And yes they will see it all on their college campus. My oldest is at App St. A very liberal school.

I never teach them anyone is evil or predatory. Those are your words, not mine.

I teach them we are all sinners in need of God's grace and as the scriptures state "there is none righteous".

That doesnt mean am vulgar in front of them or expose them to R Rated movies when they were 5 years old.

Its such a weird thing to tell a parent that they should basically not do anything because their kid is going to see it somewhere else.

Of course they are. That is what a parent is preparing them for. Lol.

 

As @BLING said, there is a pretty big distinction between avoiding places or activities and avoiding people. No one suggests that you're bigoted if you don't go to church. But if you intentionally avoid Christian people and talk about how they're a bad influence (even out of their earshot), that would be a different story, wouldn't it?