Police shot 11 year boy after he called 911 to report a domestic disturbance

This type of incidents are happening way too much.
Is it a problem in the hiring process or just poor training by police departments?
Glad that this young boy survived.

 

He obeyed his mother.

 

Whenever something like this happens, I think about the time I stepped out of my bedroom and found a cop aiming his revolver at me with both hands.

My alarm system had gone off some time before, but I reported that it was accidental.

The cop came into the house through the open garage. When he saw that I wasn't a threat, he looked tremendously relieved as he lowered his gun. I sort of felt the same way.

 

The cop obviously feared for his life, after all an 11-year old in his Super Mario pajamas can look threatening

 

Especially if he's black.

 

It's both. Departments for the most part are happy to get a warm body. I have personally seen Departments try and force incompetent candidates or simply candidates that shouldn't be in that role.

Then there is the lack of training on the mental aspects of high stress situations. Every time a cop yells orders and drops f bombs they feed into their own adrenaline dump. Every time a cop runs out of their car and leaves their siren blaring to join 5 other cops who are already arresting someone they are feeding into the chaos.

I bring this up every time these things come up because no one talks about it and yet it is a huge factor.

People want accountability from the ground up when cities and administration keep getting passes for their own hiring practices and department training/SOPs.

 

I don't know how realistic it is, but whenever this comes up I like the suggestion of cops having to carry their own liability insurance. That will weed out a bunch of unqualified guys pretty quick.

 

We have two large issues in this country that need to see significant improvement; this one and public school performance. Both are victims of the same Triangle of Death. They are funded by politicians. They are managed by politicians and unions. They serve a general public where over half of the population can’t get their shit together.

 

It won't happen though. I can't say this enough because I've seen it in multiple agencies, departments and fields, the best and brightest rarely promote up to admin. The people that buck the system either don't last or are relegated to line work. Start investigating administrations and let the ramifications trickle down the line.

 

I know this is in Mississippi, but here's a brief look at Georgia.

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The Georgia Peace Officers Standards and Training Council (POST) requires that prospective officers finish 408 hours of basic training before they can enter the force.

Across the nation, the average is much higher at 650 hours.

Officers go through an 11-week course that costs more than $3,000 an officer. They learn skills like emergency driving maneuvers, medical aid, interviews and interrogations, and firearm safety.

Some local agencies, including several around Metro Atlanta, require more training hours than the minimum. Training doesn’t end there. In Georgia, law enforcement officers must get 20 hours of certified post-training every year after they join the force.

Georgia requires least basic training time for police officers in U.S.

New Officers (Valdosta)
Newly employed certified officers attend the Department's Recruit School Course (120 hours). Each Recruit School consists of orientation and introductory classes to familiarize each new officer with his/her new duties. Classes include, but are not limited to, criminal and vehicle law, sexual harassment, use of force, defensive tactics, and firearms training, along with learning police department General Orders.

Training Division

 

Considering it is Mississippi and all it looks to me he came out of the house the wrong color for the cop.

 

That's shocking. Again some very unfortunate officers. I'm sure it's the only time they've ever expressed such racist sentiments and they just happen to get caught being recorded. It's so sad the way that keeps happening. It's not who they are at all, but the rare times they express racist sentiments, they just happen to get caught on tape

 

I just watched some bodycam. Looks like instead of cuffing him, they just tazed the crap out of him. To me, it looked like he was face down with his hands out, they were yelling for him to put his hands behind his back while tasing him instead of physically grabbing his hands and cuffing him.

 

Limp body in the back of the car: "He might be be asleep because he ain't moved.."

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This all makes sense; the question I have is are the police departments properly funded to hire the caliber of talent they need and to provide the type of training that is needed? Do our expectations of quality of service match the level of pay that a community is providing? The easy answer is this type of shooting can never happen, but there has to be a practical method to make that answer a reality. The items that you mentioned that I emphasized in bold above, to me, speak to a lack of funding or a misuse of funds (if the funding is there).

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It's a combination of things. At the moment people just don't want to be cops. Hell, fire departments have dropped standards to get in recruits. The new thing in my area is to take candidates off the street and sponsor them for all ofntheir certifications. As an example, we have been paying Fire/EMTs to go to Medic school. In 5 years of the program we have maybe 3 more paramedics on than we did 5 years ago without the program. Some leave for other departments that pay better and others fail out or leave the field altogether.

Our policy department was something like 30 positions short recently. Our fire department has 16 spots available.

As far as pay goes, when I started the fire dept in 2010 our base pay was $10.57 an hour and $1 an hour more to be a paramedic. Our chief was making around 130k while telling line personnel they shouldn't expect to get rich in this job. The cops mirrored our situation. Pay has gone up considerably but bucceess is still advertising at comparable if not higher pay for some positions.

People also bag on unions as the bad guy. Brass in our city are typically at will employees. There is no motivation to rock the boat because they can be let go at any time so even if they did have any impetus to do so they dont....

 

Also, training costs money and personnel from the line. Why be proactive when the attitude is "we'll be ok?" We run short staffed as it is so most departments don't want to pay OT or down personnel to perform training.

 

despicable behavior