The spreading GOP destruction of public education

What is a "government run school?" Government's role is to SUPPORT the schools. When government tries to run schools, it fails mightily. That's been true throughout time. And what is "freedom of education?" Seriously, what the heck

 

Plz explain the diff

 

Holy shit. What?

 

This explains the extent of your understanding when it comes to state-level education.

 

Yeah...what is "freedom of education"? Who made it up? What are the criteria? Let me guess, this is some kind of Moms for Liberty talking point. He didn't just invent "freedom of education". That was put out there on purpose from some PAC on the right. Bizarre.

 

I'll be interested in reading it. Have you read any of Diane Ravitch's books?

 

It would require more than one layer of thought.

 

To start. We spend more money than we ever have on education. And I am not saying we should spend less or more.

But the bigger issue is you start a thread with this FOOL that vetoed a bill requiring schools to reopen in March of 2021. March of 2021! He is part of the biggest public health disaster of our lifetimes. He caused generational damage. Most to those with the least. Roy Cooper has caused far more damage to public education than any dollar will ever make up for sadly.

It is pure folly to start a thread with this idiot about public education.

Cooper vetoes bill that would force K-12 schools to reopen

 

Roy himself kept kids out of in person public school. Those that needed it the most. He should never be listened to on public education after the damage he caused. On those with the least no less.

 

Funny it wasn’t so long ago the left were the neighbors turning on each other.

 

I think “government schools” is likely also a subtly dropped talking point, right wingers for decades have pushed that sort of anti govt messaging to limit EPA type regulations. A subtle shift from public schools to “government schools” is intentional imo and makes public schools more sinister to an intended (and somewhat gullible) audience. It primes them to attack for those who want to resegregate society along racial lines, crushing an integrated public school system would be key to that racist agenda.

Kind of like how during the Affordable Care Act deliberations you had seniors on Medicare unironicaly saying to keep govt out of their healthcare. Same manipulation. Nazi’s in khaki pants.

 

Wow.

That is no only impractical to the extreme, it also disparages the ability of parents to engage with their child, reinforce the learning, clarify any questions or misconceptions, and provide additional information or perspectives. You know, parenting.

We simply cannot avoid teaching topics like systemic discrimination, evolution, sex education, civil rights, biology, history, etc... because a few parents do not want it taught.

 

He kept schools closed. He has to own the damage he was integral in causing.

We spend more money than ever. Granted we probably do need to spend more now to help kids catch up because this fool was one of the leaders that harmed kids.

 

In fulton county where I live, they can raise or lower the millage rate. Is there anything preventing different counties from raising theirs to raise taxes to pay for offset of vouchers ? Seems like a common sense answer. Close family friend was Offered different pay for different counties for her work in education after graduating grad school from UGa. She chose North atlanta (Forsyth county). Also appears polls Show 65-70% favorability for vouchers in NC

 

He called for schools to be open. What he didn't do was force schools to be open. He allowed local school boards to make the decisions that were best for their communities.

Governor Cooper, State Education Leaders Say it's Time for In-Person Instruction in K-12 Schools Statewide

 

And his actions were to veto a bill requiring them to open. Let’s not hide behind the idea a school would not have been allowed to close. Schools closed before the pandemic for outbreaks of different things. They will close in the future for outbreaks of different things. Cooper was part of the massive damage called.

 

You believe that not forcing a school to open is the same is forcing it to stay closed?

Can you see why people don't believe you when you say you are for freedom? Here you are attacking the governor who promoted freedom.

 

The founders of our country made a constitution to defend against tyranny, but they had never seen the threats posed by mob ideologies like fascism or communism prior to its ratification. They were reacting to abusive monarchs, and the mob tyranny of the 19th and the 20th centuries, particularly the French revolution, communism and fascism, was not part of the corpus of history yet. So, they did not understand the ways that tyrannical mobs would seek to gain majority influence over public education systems in order to catechize the citizenry into the mob's way of thinking. They did not understand the potential for the abuse of power by mobs in the realm of education. They did not understand how the mob would seek to subvert the authority of parents in the household. A mob that has permanent control of the public education system gets the benefit of permanent government funding for the mob and its causes. A mob that has permanent control of the public education system also can play the long game and use the public education system to subvert the mechanisms of democracy. The mob can use public education to engineer its desired political outcomes.

So, checks and balances on the mob that controls public education are necessary. One such check and balance is the voucher system. Forced participation in the public education system basically makes the mob that controls education the de facto rulers of the country. The mob can manufacture democratic consensus for their own agenda if everyone is forced to participate in the public education system. The mob does not even need every child to participate to exert its control over a society. They simply need enough people to participate so that they can form a majority coalition, which has already been achieved in the younger generations of our society. Allowing people the option to not participate in the mob's education system provides a necessary check and balance on the mob's power.

I think if the founders had the whole corpus of history that we have in front of them they would have added more to the Constitution to address the potential for the abuse of power in education. I believe they probably would have included a clause about separation of education and state if the 19th and 20th centuries were part of the corpus of history at that point when they were writing the Constitution. The total privatization of education would have prevented the current educational-political complex and the mob that uses it to manufacture its own political consensus that we currently live under. Vouchers for all, and a pure capitalistic competition for that voucher money, where parents get to choose what is best for their children is what I believe they probably would have proposed.

 

LOL!

Some of you are too much. LOL!

Freedom is truly impossible for some of you to appreciate and or understand.

Keep supporting one of the worst policy decisions of our lifetime.