Threat Assessments to Reduce Mass Shootings

Grim stuff, it says a lot that this is something to even consider

 

Sadly I think we need to do it, but this will be difficult on certain people, like parents such as us that had 2 kids with different forms of mental illness. It isn’t uncommon for them, or even a depressed kid, to say things like they are going to kill themselves or others. It probably happens every day in a large school. There will be some who will be compelled to act or report on every such instance.

Whenever we put additional rules and mandates on teachers, administrators or cops that if X happens you have to do Y, then Y will happen a lot more and a lot of innocent people get caught up in it.

 

That's a mild way of saying we want to train teachers and kids to be cops and live in a police state so people can have their guns

 

Police states work best when they turn their citizens into enforcers and train them to treat everyone with suspicion, we are kinda there already informally (see the subway vigilante), but this type of training tends to reify it IMO. It may be effective, but its going to be even more effective at turning a kid into a shooting suspect in our zero tolerance culture when he posts about a breakup or something in a way a kid might over-dramatize.

 

The lawsuits will write themselves.

 

Yea it’s difficult to distinguish at times. Threat assessment isn’t easy.

There have been some obvious and rather extreme examples where internet posting shows a distinct pattern. Then some disturbing comments in school settings. Maybe we need a block taught in schools that lets kids know that certain behavior will create monitoring? Problem I see with that is it lets kids know to be discrete about threats. Double edge sword.

I’d start with a baseline and adjust from there as needed.

 

let’s see:
1. Young male?
2. Not socially connected?
3. Posts anti-_______ on social media?
4. Fired or not employed?

Good news - the signs are fairly visible. Bad news - there’s about 20 million men who qualify on age for the above. God bless ‘Murica.

 

Um...does it not bother anyone that we are talking about Minority Report stuff? They are proposing taking children from their homes and away from their parents and, among other things, forced incarceration for what can be nothing more than teenagers being teenagers, more importantly before they have not done ANYTHING wrong?

Sure, they picked on the one glaring example, but how many times have their (or will they) "threat assessors" removed kids from a home incorrectly and create the very same hate filled monsters they are supposedly "treating".

All the while, completely ignoring the FACT that if this little f-tard did not have guns lying all over the house, NONE of this massacre could have happened (his parents deserve to thrown in prison for life without parole)?

By G*D we will protect our rights to have easy access to machine guns and bazookas, but rather than dealing with that, we will go full Minority Report on our school children?

If this profiling BS worked as well as the Mother Jones article is attempting to portray, why not use this to first screen our politicians and civic leaders and weed out the psychopaths, anarchists and wannabe tyrants among them?

Yikes.

 

In many of the teen cases, they are documented in school files which stay private. People make crazy statements and undirected threats every day. The numbers are staggering. There are few laws to deal with those individuals. Make asylums great again?

 

In my case, I have significant reservations, but given the state of where we are I think it is worth a shot. I agree the whole guns thing is ridiculous but it isn’t changing any time soon. I don’t know that what you quoted was necessarily forced institutionalization. But to an extent that already exists. If you make specific threats, you can be committed to an institution without your permission as an adult. I think as a parent you can override it, but it is an uphill battle. Trust me, I speak from experience.