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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ThePlayer, May 21, 2023.

  1. VAg8r1

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    Of course both sides do it. In a number albeit not the majority of states redistricting is done by a bipartisan/non-partisan commission.
    Noting that the photo was taken in April 2021 before Meatball Ron DeSanctimonious went on his anti-woke anti-(what he incorrectly refers to as) CRT rampage.
     
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  2. UFLawyer

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    let me see if I understand your position on CRT. You want children to learn that slavery was limited to black slaves and white masters (which is VERY false); that white people are evil (false) and that black people are helpless victims (false). You want schools to teach black history but it would be racist for a school to teach white history. You want to give black applicants to college preference because ….they don’t have the skill or intelligence to make it on their own? Black scholarship are great, white scholarships are racist. Black people can use words directed at other black and it’s ok, but those same words from a white mouth are racist.

    Ron Desantis is racist because he wants to eliminate an immutable characteristic (race) from the public sector and treat people on their character and merit. You are offended by this because someone told you this was racist. Did I miss anything?
     
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  3. gator95

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    LOL. Oh, so FL just now became racist. Got it. So just so I have you on record. Do you agree with the NAACP that FL is racist and people shouldn't vacation/move here?
     
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  4. duggers_dad

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    Is it true that DeSantis has lynch mobs stationed at rest stops ?
     
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  5. gator_lawyer

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    I don't oppose the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Can't speak for you.

    In other words, you abandoned your supposed principles because they became inconvenient to your politics.
     
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  6. gator_lawyer

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    Nope. I meant you.
    Imagine suggesting that we don't teach "white history." Unserious.
     
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  7. Spurffelbow833

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    Nothing of the sort. He's just using Song of the South characters to sing and entertain the motorists without Disney's permission.
     
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  8. Gator715

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    No, I temporarily am siding with non-libertarian tactics because it is the only way in today's climate to achieve a long-term libertarian outcome.

    Sometimes, the only way to achieve both peace and freedom is through war. This may not be a war with guns or violence, but it's a war nonetheless.
     
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  9. gator_lawyer

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    LOL. "As a pacifist, I will kill as many people as it takes to bring about peace." That's called abandoning your principles.
     
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  10. homer

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    The right and left are at war and it’s going to continue on for a while. Compromise died long ago and now it’s everyone for their side no matter how it affects the other.

    I’ve given up on discussing politics, religion, and social issues with people in person. Nothing good has come from it for a while.

    The only reason I read and sometimes comment here is to hear the opinions of the right and left.

    I used to get the Tampa Bay Times paper until they went full on left. Now all they print is about what’s discussed here but from one sides opinion.
     
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  11. Gator715

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    I never called myself a pacifist.

    And if a libertarian is someone that believes government should never use its power and authority to achieve a libertarian end, then I guess I was never a libertarian, but that's not how I define it.

    I'd say I'm more like a peace and freedom-loving person who is willing to go to war to achieve long-term peace and freedom at the expense of temporary peace. Freedom is not really a cost in this decision because the alternative was freedom being stripped anyways by the other side.
     
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  12. tampajack1

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    You missed just flat out telling us that you’re a racist.
     
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  13. wgbgator

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    ChatGPT, explain the libertarian to fascist pipeline
     
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  14. Spurffelbow833

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    If there is no initiation of force on your part, you haven't abandoned your principles anyway.
     
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  15. gator_lawyer

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    You're a "libertarian" who supports big government and defends attacks on civil liberties because you're in a "culture war." That's called abandoning your principles. It is no different than a "pacifist" who advocates for violence to achieve "peace."
     
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  16. Gator715

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    I'm just doing exactly what you're doing with the exception that I'm honest about it.

    I don't redefine any inconvenient application of rights as not rights, and any convenient application of rights (regardless of whether it's correct) as rights.

    I will trust the decision of the courts regardless of how it goes. And I know the system will play out as it's supposed to. But I'm not standing between DeSantis and people like you. You guys are on your own.
     
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  17. wgbgator

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    Ah, well you can always claim self-defense right? The Nazis were just responding to Jewish aggression and so forth. Totalitarianism and the like is just a defense mechanism against external and internal enemies after all.
     
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  18. gator_lawyer

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    Correct. You're standing behind DeSantis with your lips firmly planted on his buttocks.
     
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  19. wgbgator

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    If you were actually honest, you'd just call yourself a run of the mill social conservative. It really doesnt make any sense to support social conservativism in support of a long-term libertarian goal. If you are repulsed by cultural hedonism, libertarianism is not for you lol.
     
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  20. Gator715

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    Sounds like a homophobic remark to me.
     
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