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school closures harmed american education

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by buckeyegator, May 15, 2023.

  1. mikemcd810

    mikemcd810 Premium Member

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    What I take from this is "I cannot dispute the actual data you're presenting l so I'll just continue with my preconceived notions that have no basis in reality"
     
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  2. philnotfil

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    That was also how I read it. It truly is amazing that the few times he has presented data, it all disagreed with him. Never the less, he persisted.
     
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  3. jjgator55

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    Now now, just because they let you on the crazy train doesn’t mean they’ll let you be the engineer.
     
  4. AzCatFan

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    An airbag may save your life, but won't guarantee you walk away unharmed. Therefore, it's a complete failure. This is Q's argument against the vaccine applied to a different safety measure.
     
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  5. gators81

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    Yet the argument against school closures was that schools were not a vector for transmission. Weird stuff…
     
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  6. snatchmagnet

    snatchmagnet Bring On The Bacon Premium Member

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    They weren’t. They got it at home. My wife got it from me. But I’m sure you’ll tell me how wrong that is. That my wife actually got it from a 12 year old and gave it to me.
     
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  7. QGator2414

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    No. It is reality. The covid shot failed miserably and the data shows this. There is a reason why so many are now anti Covid vax…
     
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  8. QGator2414

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    Okay? Lol…
     
  9. QGator2414

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    We saw the shot fail. I know you want to believe what the people who controlled the narrative said. But was clear with delta the shot was not going to slow or stop spread. And yes…they did everything in their power to keep the truth and reality from being seen.

    England showed us. The articles that slipped in our country showed us. If you just looked at your own anecdotes. It showed you.

    Did they provide a small therapeutic benefit for some. Maybe. At what cost…generational damage with the rollout. If they had targeted the shot for high risk groups. It would have still failed. But the damage would at least have been limited.
     
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  10. gators81

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    What’s so magical about schools that as soon as kids and teachers walk through the doors, transmission ceases? Everywhere else sure, of course, but nope, not at schools?
     
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  11. mikemcd810

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    You're like our board's very own Onion writer. I can't even dream up some of the ridiculous things you post.
     
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  12. snatchmagnet

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    The vax has been shown to be mostly smoke and mirrors. So I’m not sure what your point is on this one.
     
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  13. QGator2414

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    Let me guess…you got the shot and you got Covid?
     
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  14. mikemcd810

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    I'm not sure what your point is. You can hold this up to a mirror and it will still show a higher death rare among the unvaccinated
     

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  15. mikemcd810

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    I did and i was just fine which is the point of the vaccine. I also don't let personal experiences and anecdotes shape how I feel about things like public health decisions. I look at the broader data.
     
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  16. snatchmagnet

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    Wouldn’t a mirror reverse the numbers?
     
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  17. mikemcd810

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    It would reverse time. The orange line would still be on top.
     
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  18. AzCatFan

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    People still die even with airbags and seat belts. Are they failures too?

    Using the rate of breakthrough cases and ignoring the thousands of lives saves, and tens of thousands more saved from being hospitalized to say three vaccine failed is perhaps, the most idiotic argument I've ever heard. It's like saying not everyone wearing a seat belt survived, so they fail too. Of course, in reality, seat belts also save thousands of lives every year.

    I got vaccinated. I also caught COVID. With my asthma, I really felt awful for about 12 hours. Considered going to the ER. Had I not been vaccinated, I likely would have ended up in the hospital.

    But by your logic, the vaccine failed? Sure, if you ignore all the data that shows how effective the vaccine did saving lives. Even if it wasn't 100% effective. But then, neither are seat belts and airbags. Guess we should call those failures too!
     
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  19. QGator2414

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    That is because just about everyone does just fine regardless of vaccination status.

    And I figured you would help define the failure in efficacy for the shot.
     
  20. QGator2414

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    Pure conjecture. You have no way of knowing this. This is what you were trained to believe though. Propaganda is a powerful tool.
     
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