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school closures harmed american education

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by buckeyegator, May 15, 2023.

  1. swampbabe

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    Again, you appear to be unaware of the history of Reedy Creek. When it was first formed neither Orange nor Osceola county could handle the infrastructure demands. They are the largest single site employer and largest taxpayer. They have the right to make whatever statement they choose and the state has gone out of its way in retaliation. These lawsuits are colossal waste of taxpayer funds.

    I notice that you left out the other 1844 special districts in this state.
     
  2. QGator2414

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    No doubt choices have consequences. But one should not be required to take a new drug that has safety signals for a disease that does not endanger them. A shot that actually caused massive loss in work production. A shot that actually had people calling in sick.

    No one should be required to take an experimental drug to work. And yes. These drugs qualify as experimental. To go with the reality they failed!
     
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  3. Contra

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    I am glad we agree then...in the sense that people had the right to not be vaccinated, Disney has a right to say whatever they want. I'm glad we could come full circle and reach an agreement here.
     
  4. AzCatFan

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    Tell me where in the Constitution that you have the right to keep a job? I will tell you, that for some jobs, you need to get vaccinated. Try joining the Armed Forces without having an up-to-date vaccination record.

    What's arrogant is to believe that a global pandemic that killed millions isn't going to cause plenty of residual damage. But the biggest damage is from the arrogance of the likes of you, who believed it was possible to have a global pandemic that quickly became the third leading cause of death without residual damage. And ignorance of the fact how effective the vaccine was at preventing severe cases that prevented hospitalizations and deaths.

    The hill you are dying on is the vaccine didn't do a great job at creating immunity, while ignoring the facts that the vaccine did a great job at preventing severe cases. I've asked before, and I'll ask again, how is that considered a failure? Sure, you still got sick, but you didn't end up in the hospital or die is not a failure. That's an amazing success.
     
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  5. AzCatFan

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    Safety signals. Nice buzzword, but there have been 5.5 billion shots given to date. The only issues for the vaccines given in the US are the clots for women of birthing age from J&J, and the small risk of heart issues for young men for the others; risks that are known to be significantly smaller than the risk from infection without vaccination.

    As for massive loss in production, those who were vaccinated and got a breakthrough case experienced a significantly smaller viral load, and recovered at a much faster rate. And the vaccinated were hospitalized at a much smaller rate. Overall, the vaccine saved a lot more productivity than lost.
     
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  6. swampbabe

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    I'm wondering when some folks are going to join the rest of us in 2023?
     
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  7. QGator2414

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    Absolutely an employer should have the right to ignorantly require unnecessary shots. The government should not. With that being honest about the situation needs to be at the forefront. Which it was not.

    With that said…we used propaganda to push the coercion. And they knew it was bad science and medicine. This was pure authoritarianism. Disgusting and Karl Marx salutes you!
     
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  8. QGator2414

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    Current excess deaths say hold my beer.

    Forget the reality of the safety signals and lost productivity from these worthless shots. And yes. I was wrong to support them for high risk groups early on at this point. Though I did. Part of me wants to say high risk groups should have taken them. But as we move on it appears even they did not need them. Especially if we had focused properly on treatment.
     
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  9. citygator

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    I missed out here, but the thread title is wrong. Should say "Covid outbreak negatively impacted learning". Or maybe "No shit. Covid outbreak negatively impacted learning".
     
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  10. snatchmagnet

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    If she didn’t get vaccinated, whenever someone tested positive in any of her classes she would be required to stay home for like 7 days. I can’t remember the exact length. So no, I guess she wasn’t required to, but she would have spent 90 percent of the year at home had she not.
     
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  11. wgbgator

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    Me to this thread:

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  12. swampbabe

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    I would double check that as it doesn't sound right, no offense. If a kid in my class tested positive then those students that sat within three feet of them had to get tested and we had to keep very detailed seating charts. If a teacher tested positive they had to stay home for seven days.

    What made a huge difference was teaching elementary v secondary students. Much easier to keep your distance with older students.
     
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    I know that’s what she was told. Because she already had Covid but she was told without the positive test she would have to go home.
     
  14. snatchmagnet

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    Maybe her principal was clueless. Which I would definitely see as a high possibility
     
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  15. gator95

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    As soon as some on here admit that school closures were a colossal mistake and those in power will make sure to never do it again. Sound fair?
     
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  16. swampbabe

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    Sounds like her principal was clueless TBH. If a teacher had to go home for a week every time a positive kid was in class, I'd have been gone the whole year :D
     
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  17. gator95

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    Stupid policy. Once you had covid you were better protected than the shot itself, plus if you got covid again your symptoms would've been minor like a cold for almost everyone. Again, we knew this data and our brilliant CDC decided to not get that info out to Americans.
     
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  18. wgbgator

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    Oh and would you like some reparations for the mental anguish this has caused you?
     
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  19. QGator2414

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    No. The only thing thing wrong in the thread title was not capitalizing. But I actually liked that decision as it brings attention…

    We caused unnecessary damage to our kids and the disgusting thing is these idiots in public health did not care.
     
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  20. QGator2414

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    You were late to the party. But welcome if you finally see reality.