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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by buckeyegator, May 15, 2023.

  1. Gatoragman

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    So, there is another "forced" to get the vax.
     
  2. QGator2414

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    Key word here is “Florida”. While there are other key words we could use…let us not deny the fact many people were required/coerced to take these shots.
     
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  3. Contra

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    Haha, "choice." I love how you are using that word. A married woman in the middle ages also had that kind of "choice." Her choice might have resulted in her being left on the streets with no sort of income, but hey a woman had the power to choose in the middle ages. It sounds like your kind of paradise. I always knew liberals loved submission to men and having a man as their master. Today it is just the CEO rather than a husband.
     
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  4. jjgator55

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    And? Certain situations have certain requirements, no one was threatened with jail time if they didn’t get vaccinated.
     
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  5. jjgator55

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    Call it what you want. In the United States people were encouraged to get vaccinated, but not forced.
     
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  6. g8trdave

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    The Root Cause was...a pandemic.
     
  7. jjgator55

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    Sometimes choices are hard. If a person feels that strongly about not wanting to be vaccinated then they should be willing to sacrifice their job, entertainment, and other things requiring a vaccination without complaint. It’s always a choice.
     
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  8. AzCatFan

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    Public health benefits all of us. If you are against public health type laws, then you are against seat belt laws, despite the fact seat belts save lives and lower auto insurance rates because people are less injured in accidents, therefore requiring less payouts from insurance companies. You would also be against DUI laws, again, despite the fact that they save lives and lower insurance rates because there are less accidents.

    The vaccine saved lives, and lowered the number of hospitalization visits, thus saving costs for medical insurance. The average COVID hospital visit in the US was over $41,000. For the cost of around $30 for the shot, that's quite the ROI, even if the shot only saves 1 in 1,000 from being hospitalized.

    And no, the government didn't force anyone to take the shot. It's not like anyone was jailed or fined for being unvaccinated. Maybe lose a job? Yes, but you are only guaranteed life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Not guaranteed a job.
     
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  9. gator95

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    Luckily because DeSantis wasn't blindly following the "science".
     
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  10. swampbabe

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    Some folks conveniently forget to mention that people had the option to get tested regularly instead of getting vaccinated. In addition, it appears that my post earlier sailed right over the head of some (shocking.)

    Florida teachers never were required to get vaccinated so the poster that said his wife was forced either was mistaken or his wife works at a private school.
     
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  11. jjgator55

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    They also fail to understand that everything in life is a choice, but they want choice without consequences.
     
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  12. Contra

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    It is an easy statement to make when it fits the agenda. However, I doubt you'd be singing the same tune if the subject was:

    1. Disney biting the hand that feeds them, the hand that gives them undeserved preferential treatment that Disney has no right to.
    2. A woman filing for a divorce just because she wants to.
    3. Having sex and getting pregnant.

    If we broached any of those subjects, then you'd be talking about how consequences trample over human rights.
     
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  13. swampbabe

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    You have number one backwards.
     
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  14. QGator2414

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    Wrong…

    Coercing/Forcing people to take a shot to keep their livelihood is not encouraging. That is authoritarian. It is really disgusting what we did to people through this. Thankfully I had the ability to make a choice for my personal health without affecting our family (lived in a freedom state and being an owner of a business did not have anyone coercing/forcing us to take unnecessary shots). Others did not have that. You can’t be so naive to not understand this…
     
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  15. swampbabe

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    What a crock of shit, to be kind.

    You obviously aren't familiar with the particulars of the situation. It would be foolish to poke a private company that is responsible for 1.1 BILLION dollars of tax revenue. In addition, there is no king here but the Constitution does give both individuals and corporations free speech rights and protection from retaliation from government entities. It appears that you may belong in the authoritarian camp.
     
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  16. QGator2414

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    SMH…

    For a shot we knew from the early on did not work. This is how propaganda works. SMH!
     
  17. QGator2414

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    More arrogant nonsense. People lost their livelihoods. People took shots they did not need/want and suffered in order to maintain their livelihood. Karl Marx and the like salute you!
     
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  18. Contra

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    I deleted the comment as not to derail the thread. I'm not in the authoritarian camp, though. Businesses don't deserve special treatment. If you can show me in the Constitution where a business has a right to preferential treatment by the magistrate, then I'm all ears.
     
  19. QGator2414

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    This! Thankfully he was actually following the science…
     
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  20. QGator2414

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    LOL! Test test test. Another one of the failures in this whole thing.

    Take the shot that won’t stop you from getting the disease. Then you won’t have to test for it. You can just go spread it when you get it.

    LOL!
     
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