school closures harmed american education

Virtual learning on a computer with a teacher not in the house is not homeschooling. This shouldn't have to be explained.

I have met homeschool kids who had a pretty terrible education, and then I have met homeschool kids who have had an exceptional education. It depends on the family. Some do it well, while others do not.

 

You're ignoring the trade off, which was the point Davis made. How many deaths of teachers and staff were you willing to stomach for better test scores?

 

Remote learning and home schooling are not the same thing.

 

The same people who keep harping on this are the same ones that are cool with the whitewashing of history via book banning.

 

This was not hindsight. This was known. And it was preventable. But they hammered you with fear. And in turn we witnessed what will be the biggest public health disaster in our lifetimes…

 

Hey these kids will probably grow up to be GOP voters now. Silver lining!

 

We had intensive summer school offered here with money from the feds to cover the cost. In addition, there was funding for tutoring, math “boot camp” sessions, and other interventions.

 

You’re so correct about all of this. Also, we need the gop to ban more books, limit intellectual conversations about race, gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation, socioeconomic status, hierarchical stratification……as long as we do it in an actual school building, all should be well and good.

 

Our brilliant friends on the left will continue the excuses…

“She’d be a senior right now, preparing for graduation in a few months, probably leading her school’s modern dance troupe and taking art classes.

Instead, Kailani Taylor-Cribb hasn’t taken a single class in what used to be her high school since the height of the coronavirus pandemic. She vanished from Cambridge, Massachusetts’ public school roll in 2021 and has been, from an administrative standpoint, unaccounted for since then.

She is among hundreds of thousands of students around the country who disappeared from public schools during the pandemic and didn’t resume their studies elsewhere.

An analysis by The Associated Press, Stanford University’s Big Local News project and Stanford education professor Thomas Dee found an estimated 240,000 students in 21 states whose absences could not be accounted for. These students didn’t move out of state, and they didn’t sign up for private school or home-school, according to publicly available data.”

The pandemic missing: The kids who didn’t go back to school

 

They pretty much are unless the child is a self-starter, and of course every parent thinks their child is a self-starter who doesn’t need any adult supervision.

 

It's nice to see you arguing for more social services for at risk children.

 

Testimonials are not evidence, and yes they pretty much are the same thing. The only difference is in remote learning there’s a set schedule when an online class starts whereas homeschooling allows flexible scheduling. Either way the parent bears responsibility to make sure their child is doing the work.

 

So where are the parents in all this? People on the right will say it’s the school’s responsibility to make sure kids are in school, not the parents.

 

I don’t think anyone would disagree children lost time getting educated, but to say the reason was because of school closures is to absolve parents of their responsibility as a partner in their child’s education. There was remote learning in place, and summer schools were offered to help students catch up, but it’s like anything else in that no matter what the schools offered the students had to show up.

 

Lack of parental involvement is an issue even outside of the covid schooling issue. And it’s not a left/right issue per se although conservatives generally think the lack of a two parent home leads to many undesirable outcomes for kids.

 

I don't think this is true, at least in my case. I agree with adult supervision or self-starter being necessary.

I have a daughter that attends a charter on line school. She is in an honors program. She follows state standards. She has hours of instruction (periods with different teachers formatted like a traditional in-person school), in-person standardized testing (she tests at the very high end of her peers). Home-school is extremely variable and curriculum is defined/taught by the parent (atleast in my experience).

 

Recent nationwide issue: “Old news - time to get over it”

25 or 30 year old accusation:
“We must know the truth!”

Reminds me of the Wizard of Oz: “Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!”

 

Nice straw man…

I was arguing to open schools and provide the social services our kids needed. But as expected. Distract/Find Excuses.

 

Sadly in real life you have a lot of kids growing up in unfortunate circumstances. Our idiots in public health failed these kids. School can be the safest place for many. That is just reality. And our idiots in public health failed these kids.