Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!

California went from a surplus to a deficit under Newsome

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by OklahomaGator, May 13, 2023.

  1. OklahomaGator

    OklahomaGator Jedi Administrator Moderator VIP Member

    123,201
    163,942
    116,973
    Apr 3, 2007
    What you need to know about Newsom's plan to offset California's $31.5-billion deficit

    It seems tax revenues are down. Newsome had touted a $100 billion surplus last summer, quite a swing in 12 months.
     
    • Agree Agree x 4
    • Informative Informative x 2
  2. g8trjax

    g8trjax GC Hall of Fame

    5,182
    445
    293
    Jun 1, 2007
    • Funny Funny x 3
    • Winner Winner x 2
    • Like Like x 1
  3. citygator

    citygator VIP Member

    11,533
    2,548
    3,303
    Apr 3, 2007
    Charlotte
    I expect more from a Mod.

    California’s taxes are progressive and generated disproportionately off of the wealthy who have seen poor stock returns this year so they took losses and paid less in taxes than planned. Very sad for the rich. Additionally Cal had a tax extension to October from April due to winter storms and therefore they are guessing on part of it. Looks like they are reacting and adjusting spending, so.. seems kinda like normal government machinations.

    California's Gov. Newsom says state's budget deficit has grown to nearly $32 billion
     
    • Funny x 4
    • Agree x 2
    • Disagree Bacon! x 1
    • Winner x 1
    • Best Post Ever x 1
  4. OklahomaGator

    OklahomaGator Jedi Administrator Moderator VIP Member

    123,201
    163,942
    116,973
    Apr 3, 2007
    What did I say that was not true?
     
    • Agree Agree x 5
  5. GatorGrowl

    GatorGrowl Forum Admin Moderator VIP Member

    162,136
    17,742
    103,338
    Jan 19, 2012
    Paris, TN
    [​IMG]
     
    • Like Like x 4
    • Winner Winner x 2
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
    • Come On Man Come On Man x 1
  6. citygator

    citygator VIP Member

    11,533
    2,548
    3,303
    Apr 3, 2007
    Charlotte
    Seemed light on framing up a point or argument to me. You need to run the swamp stairs for 15 as punishment or just ignore me. : )
     
  7. tampagtr

    tampagtr VIP Member

    17,561
    2,791
    1,618
    Apr 3, 2007
    I'll have to read this and analyze it for full context later. But under Jerry Brown and supermajoritarian Democratic legislature, California was the most fiscally responsible State out there, completely turning their fiscal situation. It was a long New Yorker piece, which of course I remember because it emphasized Brown's Jesuit training. It's probably searchable. I have to see what's supposedly changed now.

    Either way, I'm no fan of Newsom for a lot of other reasons. I hope he's not our standard bearer. Republicans are evil so he would obviously be a better alternative, but let's hope it's not him
     
    Last edited: May 13, 2023
  8. OklahomaGator

    OklahomaGator Jedi Administrator Moderator VIP Member

    123,201
    163,942
    116,973
    Apr 3, 2007
    The 2023-24 Budget: California's Fiscal Outlook

    I will add some more points of discussion for you.
    • Booming Economy Has Led to High Inflation.
    • Efforts to Tame Inflation Are Slowing the Economy.
    • Inflation Pressures Remain, Raising Risk of a Recession.
    • Economic Environment Creates Challenges for the Legislature
    • Fiscal Outlook Revenues Balance Competing Risks
    Keep in mind that CA has to pass a balanced budget, so if revenues do not increase above current projections, they will have to cut spending.

    How's that?
     
    • Like Like x 3
  9. citygator

    citygator VIP Member

    11,533
    2,548
    3,303
    Apr 3, 2007
    Charlotte
    Not bad. B+/A-
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  10. WarDamnGator

    WarDamnGator GC Hall of Fame

    10,783
    1,351
    1,718
    Apr 8, 2007
    Proof #5,154,936 ... Republicans only care about deficits when a democrat is in charge....
     
    • Disagree Bacon! Disagree Bacon! x 2
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 2
  11. OklahomaGator

    OklahomaGator Jedi Administrator Moderator VIP Member

    123,201
    163,942
    116,973
    Apr 3, 2007
    I care about deficits almost all of the time. I did make an exception for the first covid bill because the government basically shut down the economy on purpose. There needed to be spending on unemployment, food supplies, and some corporate subsidies since they lost revenue through no fault of their own.

    I didn't like deficits when Reagan did them and don't like them now.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  12. citygator

    citygator VIP Member

    11,533
    2,548
    3,303
    Apr 3, 2007
    Charlotte
    Curious. Which Republican handled the deficit appropriately while they were in power?
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  13. danmanne65

    danmanne65 GC Hall of Fame

    3,905
    816
    268
    Jul 2, 2022
    DeLand
    Clinton had a balanced budget. Oops, His treatment of women made me think he was a Republican for a second.
     
    • Come On Man Come On Man x 2
    • Funny Funny x 1
    • Creative Creative x 1
  14. WarDamnGator

    WarDamnGator GC Hall of Fame

    10,783
    1,351
    1,718
    Apr 8, 2007
    How many posts have you started complaining about deficits in red states or when Trump was president? I mean, you are already saying you gave Trump a pass on his yuge deficit ...
     
    • Come On Man Come On Man x 2
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
  15. OklahomaGator

    OklahomaGator Jedi Administrator Moderator VIP Member

    123,201
    163,942
    116,973
    Apr 3, 2007
    None of them, l will give Clinton credit for his balanced budget.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  16. OklahomaGator

    OklahomaGator Jedi Administrator Moderator VIP Member

    123,201
    163,942
    116,973
    Apr 3, 2007
    States typically don't have deficits, they have to balance their budgets.
     
    • Winner Winner x 3
  17. l_boy

    l_boy 5500

    12,920
    1,727
    3,268
    Jan 6, 2009
    This is the problem when such a high percent of your income is based on highly volatile progressive income taxes. Unlike federal government you can’t just run deficits.
     
  18. ThePlayer

    ThePlayer VIP Member

    37,541
    5,011
    2,193
    Apr 3, 2007
    Governor Nuisance may have to adjust his one-man crusade on climate change.
    The governor said Friday he will help push a new “climate bond” ballot measure through the Legislature this year
    for voters to consider next year.
    But his new spending plan cuts $1 billion more in spending than the January proposal, for a total of $6.7 billion,
    mostly by clawing back $200 million in unallocated Middle Class Tax Refunds, $149.4 million in unused funds to
    help consumers with past-due utility bills during COVID and $280 million of unspent CalWORKS aid funds.
    This should be fun.
     
    Last edited: May 13, 2023
    • Informative Informative x 3
  19. oragator1

    oragator1 Premium Member

    22,985
    5,635
    3,488
    Apr 3, 2007
    Wait until the reparations bill reaches his desk, and he can either run the state into financial oblivion or piss off the majority of his base.
     
    Last edited: May 13, 2023
    • Agree Agree x 4
  20. channingcrowderhungry

    channingcrowderhungry Premium Member

    8,986
    2,017
    3,013
    Apr 3, 2007
    Bottom of a pint glass
    I thought that bill was just some knuckleheads throwing shit against the wall. Is it an actual bill making it to his desk?
     
    • Agree Agree x 1