Verdict reached in the Carroll-Trump case (liable for defamation and lesser battery charge)

I get it now. We and the jury were only supposed to believe testimony from the liar that stated he had no idea who Caroll was and she wasn't his type but thought she was a woman he'd married. Sure you go with that in court.

 

lol this is gold. Look at what Carroll tweeted back in 2016.

 

Bold = Nailed it.

Why didn't he testify? Don't you think a civil jury is going to draw all sorts of inferences from the fact he didn't?

 

No, it was never subject to criminal prosecution because it wasn't reported within the SOL.

 

I notice that you left out the part where Reade has lied under oath while claiming to be an expert witness (with credentials she did not have). Good luck taking a person who investigators have found lied under oath (and only didn't charge because they determined that the lie did not have a material effect on the case) and having them try to convince a jury through testimony.

 

The whole story is difficult for me to believe. I'm not a woman but I find it hard to believe a woman could not tell if she was being penetrated by a penis or a finger. I mean out of all the times the doctor did a prostate exam on me I never once thought he had his dick up my ass. Hummmm there was that time I felt a hand on each shoulder.

 

Does your doctor grab you out of the blue, without telling you, force your pants down, and then insert things in your ass roughly? If so, I'd suggest a new doctor.

 

Assuming D.C. has a similar law regarding civil liability from sexual assault cases like New York, Reade could sue Biden. But she would have a more difficult case to prove. Yes, there are corroborating witnesses that would say she confided with them at the time regarding the story, but one of them has passed (Reade's mother), and another, denies ever hearing about the story (Biden's D.C. Office Manager). Yes, there are other women who say Biden was inappropriate with them too, but to what level? Reade says Biden cornered her and pushed himself on her. The other women accusing Biden tell stories more about hugging too long, unwanted kisses, and hair sniffing. Creepy, yes. But is it a pattern of sexual assault like we saw with Trump? That would be the question the jury would need to decide.

And other factors would work against Reade. It has been proven she lied under oath once. In contrary, Biden would have a bunch of character witnesses saying it would be out of character for Biden to do what Reade alleges. In addition, there is no Access Hollywood type tape with Biden on it, and when confronted with his behavior might have been inappropriate, Biden apologized and said he will work on doing better about giving people, specifically women, more space. You could imagine that in a taped deposition and on a witness stand, Biden would echo these statements. In contrast, Trump said fortunately or unfortunately, men like him have been able to assault women through history.

I'm not saying Reade doesn't have a case, assuming she can file a civil suit under D.C. law. Just that winning it would be a lot more difficult than Carroll had.

 

Again, and I'll type this slowly, there was more evidence provided than just corroboration witnesses. I provided a link that details the evidence the first time you tried that. It is unscrupulous to cherry pick a portion of the evidence to paint an untruthful representation. Do you ever hear yourself?

"Biased juges (sic) and jury (sic), never happens in our country, ever." is about the lamest bucket of pudding to the suggestion that a jury trial is a crucible. Great pains are taken to ensure impartiality of the judge and jury. In the event there is demonstrable bias, the defendant has an avenue for justice through an appellate system. To just hand wave away a jury trial result because bias occurred sometime in the past in other cases is such a weak argument. In fact, it's a fallacy of composition. Lazy.

 

Separate topic but don’t you also think the fbi was behind the Jan 6th attack on the US capital?

 

All the women are liars. The judge was corrupt. The jury saw the evidence and was wrong. believe trump, he always tells the truth.

I’m sooooooo glad I’m not a trump follower and can use my God given analytical abilities we each have, even if it challenges my judgement. But what is depressing is maga always has to take the moral low road to make it work.

 

I doubt any additional damages would be sufficient to justify it, but I'm not surprised they're at least threatening it.

E. Jean Carroll May Sue Trump a Third Time After ‘Vile’ Comments on CNN

E. Jean Carroll is weighing whether to file a new defamation lawsuit against former President Donald J. Trump in the wake of his diatribe against her during a CNN town hall Wednesday night, when he said her claim of a decades-old sexual assault was “fake” and a “made-up story,” her lawyer said on Thursday.

 

To make it work, I use the facts, which apparently do not matter to most here. There is zero evidence of her 23 year old claim unless Trump is guilty of defaming her for denying the rape charge. This woman is a liberal political activist bank rolled by Reid Hoffman who just happens to be one of Biden's largest donors & major critic of Trump. Does this give you pause in the least bit?

This is Blasey Ford 2.0. If I am on the left, I would consider toning down the Lawfare, because I believe it's pushing voters towards Trump.

 

Unless ejaculation occurs or there is video of the incident, there is never any evidence that sexual assault happened that a woman can produce.

Meanwhile, we have the Access Hollywood tape and Trump's depo admitting that he does this sort of thing all the time.

 

Not to mention, the sworn testimony from two other women that Trump did something very similar to them. More than enough evidence that it took a jury less than 3 hours to decide there was enough culpability to find against Trump in a civil trial.

 

You've really been drinking the Trump Kool-Aid. I suppose she contacted her friends immediately after she fabricated the incident so that she could sue Trump over 25 years later and while she was at it she colluded with a number of other women so that they could also fabricate similar stories regarding Trump's behavior. By the way when Trump made his statement that when you're star they let you do it, what he actually meant was that when you're a star you can get away with grabbing women's genitalia because they're probably too intimidated by your celebrity to bring charges against you not that they consent to the groping.

 

Trump has very small hands. Don't forget what Stormy said, either.

Entitlement to punitive damages should rise exponentially.

 

The people who would gravitate to Trump over a sexual abuse finding won't be eligible to vote until they have their civil rights restored.

 

Counter point. If she was lying don't you think she'd lie definitively and say whether it was a finger or a penis? Not knowing for sure actually sounds way more believable that she wasn't lying.