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Boy turns into girl, then rapes friend…going to male prison

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Orange_and_Bluke, May 11, 2023.

  1. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    A guy raped two women, that they know of. How does trans factor in at all?
     
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  2. PetrolGator

    PetrolGator Lawful Neutral

    OP: Perhaps instead of projecting one awful incident on the entire trans community because of your own bigotry, we look at data:

    Trans people are more likely to be the VICTIMS of assault:

    Transgender people over four times more likely than cisgender people to be victims of violent crime

    This article covers concers about allegedly higher incidence of sexual violence when trans people are allowed to utilize the bathroom of their identified gender.

    Why LGBT Advocates Say Bathroom 'Predators' Are Red Herring

    In fact, choosing to perpetuate these lies by anecdotes leads to additional violence against trans people that is attributed to:
    • 50% of those who identify as trans youth seriously considering suicide
    • 14-19% attempted suicide. This is the highest rate among various groups.
    Article: More than 50% of trans and non-binary youth in US considered suicide this year, survey says

    Of course, I imagine some posters here wish those numbers were higher, given their vitriol toward trans people. Perhaps speaking with trans people and understanding them would be a better option than the malfeasance of the OP?

    Before someone gets cheeky: I continue to defend this community because I care about people. Ted Lasso beautifully demonstrated this behavior in the show's latest episode when a player finally came out of the closet:



    I care. I care because I volunteer for a suicide help line where I hear a depressingly large number of LGBTQ+ people begging for someone just to care and not judge based on their personal and (often) religious suppositions. These people have value and I'm so damned tired of seeing people like the OP absolutely diminish that.
     
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  3. gatordavisl

    gatordavisl VIP Member

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    Thanks for answering, Bluke. I'd be on board with stopping adults from encouraging unwanted/unwarranted gender transition. I just don't know that it's a pervasive issue. Certainly one can find anecdotal evidence, but I asked you for evidence that it occurs with frequency. "It frequently comes up in conversation among parents" is not verifiable evidence.
     
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  4. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

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    So how can you say your own eyes? Your evidence is gossip among your likeminded friends? They are probably just as obsessed as you, trapped in the same out-of-touch bubble.
     
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  5. Orange_and_Bluke

    Orange_and_Bluke Premium Member

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    I am aware of the information you have provided. I get it. I never wish harm on anyone. If I didn’t have children, I likely wouldn’t notice the issue.
    And lastly, looks like you and I are alike. I also used to work at the crisis center.
     
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  6. Orange_and_Bluke

    Orange_and_Bluke Premium Member

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    Students are talking. Teachers are talking. There are counselors who give short speeches on the topic at school.
    It’s on the news. It’s a real thing.
     
  7. AgingGator

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    I’m all for restricting guns from known criminals, or to be kept in the same residence as known criminals. The problem is that you guys make gun control a one size fits all thing.
     
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  8. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

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    Its on the news? So was satanic ritual child abuse, and that wasn't a thing.
     
  9. Orange_and_Bluke

    Orange_and_Bluke Premium Member

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    Yes it was. Thankfully the conservatives snuffed it out and put it out of its misery.
    You’re welcome.
     
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  10. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

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    This explains a lot, you just believe things that arent actually real.
     
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  11. Orange_and_Bluke

    Orange_and_Bluke Premium Member

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    And you have a good sense of humor…selectively.
     
  12. channingcrowderhungry

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    Bottom of a pint glass
    I'm still looking for the litter boxes in the school bathrooms
     
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  13. RIP

    RIP I like touchdowns Premium Member

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    They put them behind the sex change booths.
     
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  14. PetrolGator

    PetrolGator Lawful Neutral

    I think Dooku is a good avatar for you. You're convinced you're doing God's work while helping to perpetuate great evil. I'm sorry. These sort of threads, that are anecdotal and not based in overall fact, do great harm to the trans community. The fact you worked in a crisis center should help you empathize enough to understand the damage that these (at best) exaggerations have caused.

    How many people have been assaulted because some person thinks a trans woman was a danger to their kids? Wife? Friends? From the links above, quite a few.

    Trans people aren't a danger to your kids in any meaningful way greater than cis-gendered people. The data support the opposite, in fact, given that they're often the subject of abuse.

    Please, please do better.
     
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  15. gatordavisl

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    They were on the news . . . duh.
     
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    "This shiz is sick and needs to be addressed now" but kids cut to swiss cheese with AR-15s in school, that can wait or be ignored altogether.
     
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  17. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

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    And we all know that's also on the news, which makes things real
     
  18. Orange_and_Bluke

    Orange_and_Bluke Premium Member

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    Good post. Although I’ll give a little push back on the gods work. I don’t think I’m doing good. I’m just taking precautions to protect my daughter.

    In the spirit of learning, respect and of course, the spirit of the crisis center…I have decided not post any more trans threads.
     
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  19. Orange_and_Bluke

    Orange_and_Bluke Premium Member

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    Why not both?
     
  20. CHFG8R

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    China (and smart people) beg to differ. . . . GREATLY!