Verdict reached in the Carroll-Trump case (liable for defamation and lesser battery charge)

I realize that distinctions do not matter to you but the fact that they did not find sufficient evidence of rape doesn't necessarily mean that she lied. They clearly found that the Orange One attempted to rape her but didn't find sufficient evidence as to whether or not he was successful.

 

It’s not only unfair it’s SO UNFAIR! They should hold his remaining trials in Moscow.

 

You clowns are real pieces of work. Now I see why you are so liberal and miserable.

JJ made a joke that trump does pay for sex, which was very funny. I replied with a joke that in this case he paid and still didn’t get the sex. You clowns need to get over yourselves.

And JJ, thank you for the funny joke, even though many here don’t know how to laugh.

 

There’s a reason they’re are no conservative comedians.

 

I thought your joke about Trump paying (or not paying) for sex was rather funny. I even went back and added a rating of "funny".

 

Actually they found Trump not guilty but not innocent. That was expected since there were no witnesses, no security camera footage, or a stained blue dress.

 

Refreshing to see such a lack of knowledge about civil litigation.

 

Damn JJ, you’re hitting them out of the park today!

 

Precious. I admit I’m not a lawyer but I do know there is a difference between a not guilty verdict and being innocent. I also know that a jury doesn’t find someone is a liar.

Out of curiosity what area of law do you specialize in?

 

I thought it was dumb.

 

Really? Maybe you’re just constipated.

 

Classic scene from a classic movie.

 

Educate yourself.

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Wordsmith how you wish, he’s ‘guilty’ in the civil sense


Here’s the verdict form:

Read the full jury verdict form from the E. Jean Carroll defamation trial

 

They did not find that she lied. Given her testimony, in which she stated that she wasn't sure it was his penis rather than his fingers, they found him responsible for the form of sexual assault that doesn't require it be done with the penis, which New York requires for the legal definition of rape. But sure, go with that argument if it helps you.

 

If you want a more accurate description of what just happened in NY then read this tweet.

 

Trump doesn't do himself any favors with his mouth.

Hilarious at times, nail on the head other times, but sometimes it's just downright destructive even for himself.

 

His biggest problems are personality related... yes, but he knows what our country needs to thrive.

 

I agree this crap is separate from his ability to run a country. But if they found that he raped her, I would feel very differently than I do about him right now.

All this verdict says to me is that he had unwanted and offensive sexual advances towards a woman. He acted completely inappropriately then lied about it and harmed the woman's reputation. He was also unfaithful to his wife.

None of that tells me anything about Trump that I didn't already know. And there's also a huge line between THAT and rape.

 

"Guys, its okay, all he did was shove some part of his body in her against her will. We don't know it was his penis!" (note: that is the difference between sexual abuse and rape in New York, both are more severe than unwanted touching, which they also could have found him liable for today but chose to go with sexual abuse).

Quite the defense.