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Mass Shooting Allen, TX Outlet Mall - May 6, 2023

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by murphree_hall, May 6, 2023.

  1. AgingGator

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    Please, drop the drama
     
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  2. l_boy

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    Meh. Many of these shooters buy their guns shortly before they use them. They buy them for legal sources.
     
  3. GCNumber7

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    Crazy people aren’t unique to America. But ours have easy access to guns. Again, this isn’t an abstract concept. It could happen any day to your family, your kids, your loved ones. Today’s ‘regular occurring event only in America’ happened at a place where many of my loved ones shop regularly. Whine all you want about rights. Real people are getting killed.
     
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  4. BLING

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    Drama? This is real life. A 5 year is in that pile of bodies.

    I should warn everyone, that 2nd tweet is extremely graphic/heartwrenching.

     
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  5. l_boy

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    You can argue whether changing social or family values play a factor, but that is something that is happening and it isn’t going to change rapidly, and laws certainly aren’t going to change people’s family choices. We have to adapt to the environment around us, whether we like the environment or not.
     
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  6. Gatorhead

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    Well it's clear that persons are willing to use weapons more frequently, against fellow citizens, for whatever reason.
     
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  7. l_boy

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    We wouldn’t dream of letting children play with guns and buy them at the store, but we seem to be ok with allowing adults who have the maturity of children to have guns.
     
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  8. RayGator

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    It’s just awful. Seems like the last year or so we read about so many shootings of people around the country.
     
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  9. BLING

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    Most of these shooters aren’t “right wingers”, a lot of them seem to be incel twerps. Although a few have had far right political leanings (Dylan Roof, El Paso Shooter).

    But the conservative rolling back of gun laws has made it exceptionally easy for these nutjob shooters to get assault rifles regardless of their motivation, even if their motivation is essentially suicide. Almost all were legally purchased, and they wouldn’t have been able to get these rifles before the 1990’s. How many of these freaks would go through the steps of getting a CCP to commit a mass shooting with a handgun? I’d suggest almost none of them. That doesn’t mean there would have been zero of these events had we maintained 1990’s gun laws, but it wouldn’t be spiraling out of control as it is now. Social media plays a bit of a role too. But it’s not like police can scrub social media and put 2 and 2 together, their hands are tied until there is a literal pile of bodies.
     
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  10. GCNumber7

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    I’ve seen a lot of social media, including many GOP politicians, and even gun manufacturer ads featuring very young kids. These people are sick in the head.
     
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  11. Sohogator

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    We need to to see more of that footage after mass murders - shove it down their gun loving throats. Shame them in the street, in restaurants where ever they go. Detail a crew for each Congress critter with an AR 15 pin
     
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  12. sierragator

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    High five each other ammosexuals.
     
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  13. dangolegators

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    These almost always involve a gun nut with a grievance. That is the 'why' - a combination of guns and grievances.
     
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    Although Serbia had two mass shootings in two days this week. The second one, based on very preliminary reports, was by some Nazi sympathizer. But the first one was a kid getting back at his school. Going by memory without looking it up again so I may recall the details slightly off
     
  15. exiledgator

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    In your entire shitty post history, this is right up there as the shitiest. I'm sure I'm forgetting some though
     
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  16. ncargat1

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    Leadership we can all be proud of on this topic....

     
  17. okeechobee

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    Who or what to blame is another story for another thread, but the breakdown is undeniable. Look at broken home/divorce rate/single parent homes. As to frequency of the mass shootings, also undeniable is the sharp increase in the frequency over the last 20 years, for a country that has leaned on the 2nd Amendment for well over 200 years:

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    There is plenty of evidence the prevalence of firearms in America do not correlate to the overall gun murder rate, as we are actually doing better now with gun murder rate overall than we did in the 1970s, for example.

    The issue is not the guns. It's the people who are choosing to pull the trigger(s).
     
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  18. exiledgator

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    We don't need to control guns, we just need to control alcohol, drugs, pharmaceuticals, anger, mental health, divorce rates, virginity, criminality, ... Am I missing anything? Let's just clean all this up, just make sure we don't touch the guns. Keep pouring those into society.
     
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    Admittedly, I've before advocated for more security, but I don't think that solves the problem. The people doing the shootings are the problem. We must address the mental illness that leads people to such horrific behavior.
     
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  20. BLING

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    You forgot violent video games, movies, and of course getting the gay books out of libraries.

    The video game argument always cracks me up. Ban virtual guns? Certainly! Suggest gun control? “You’ll pry that AR-15 out of my cold dead hands”.
     
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