Florida just ranked as the top state for education

Some of the best infrastructure as well. Aside from the densely-populated Acela Corridor, only FL has fast passenger rail.

 

from the article
Instead, Florida's No. 1 ranking in higher education — in addition to its No. 1 ranking in education overall — is thanks to its low tuition and debt, as well as high college-graduation rates.

I am sure that low tuition was a big driver in this along with bright futures helping people graduate with less or no debt. One of criteria is % with higher ed degrees which can be heavily influenced by the number of retirees moving here with their degrees. those are 3 of the 5 crieteria

actions being taken by DeS and his band of sycophants in the legislature today will not result in material differences for years to come so these rankings are heavily influenced by what was built before him and he is in the process of tearing down.

still surprised to see Florida #1 in higher education and 14th in pre-k - 12. I would need to see the data before I can believe it.

Best States 2023: How They Were Ranked | Best States | U.S. News (usnews.com)

EDUCATION

Higher Education

• 2-Year-College Graduation Rate: The share of students attending public institutions who complete a two-year degree program within three years, or 150% of the normal time. (National Center for Education Statistics; 2018 cohort)
• 4-Year-College Graduation Rate: The share of undergraduate students at public institutions who initially pursue a bachelor's or equivalent four-year degree and receive one within six years, or 150% of the normal time of study. (National Center for Education Statistics; 2015 cohort)
• Population With Advanced Degree: The share of people 25 and older in a state who have an associate degree or higher. (U.S. Census Bureau American Community Survey 1-year estimates; 2021)
• Debt at Graduation: The average amount of debt held by college students graduating from four-year public or private nonprofit institutions. (The Institute for College Access and Success; 2020)
• Tuition and Fees: The average college tuition and fees required of in-state students at public four-year institutions, not including room and board. (National Center for Education Statistics; 2020-2021)

Pre-K-12

• College Readiness: The approximate percentage of high school graduates who have met benchmarks in the SAT, the ACT or both. (College Board, ACT, U.S. Census Bureau; 2020)
• High School Graduation Rate: The four-year adjusted cohort high school graduation rate for public schools. (National Center for Education Statistics; 2019-2020)
• NAEP Math Scores: The average composite-scale score on mathematics achievement tests taken by eighth-grade students. (U.S. Department of Education National Assessment of Educational Progress; 2022)
• NAEP Reading Scores: The average composite-scale score on reading achievement tests taken by eighth-grade students. (U.S. Department of Education National Assessment of Educational Progress; 2022)
• Preschool Enrollment: The percentage of children ages 3 to 4 enrolled in a nursery or preschool program. (U.S. Census Bureau American Community Survey 1-year estimates; 2021)

 

I’ve visited 30 states and presently live in NC. Roads up here are third-world compared to Florida’s.

 

how does any of this result in lower tuition, less debt, or more degreed individuals?

"Governor Ron DeSantis has eliminated common core, protected parental rights, provided historic teacher salary increases, abolished woke indoctrination from the classroom, and exposed the DEI scam in higher education," he said. "The results speak for themselves. The Florida education model works."

 

This ought to be fun. Let the excuses begin about how awful Florida and DeSantis are…

 

The living ain’t bad up here in Charlotte. But my next door neighbors recently moved to Ocala and swear it’s heaven.

I do miss my home state.

 

Just an FYI on what’s coming, this years graduate school rankings came out last week had UF dropping significantly for both engineering and business after years of steady rises.
The university understandably highlighted that the education and vet schools did well, but the real money makers got hit hard. And we have lost much of our top tier leadership even since some of those opinions surveys they use went out too.
I expect a similar fate when the full university rankings come out in September.

 

Unpopular take…I think UF was better in the 90s anyway.
Let’s make UF great again.

 

The article says #1 in higher education, not K-12. Florida is way lower in actually developing kids in those grades. No one left or right has said Florida's higher education was bad, except Bluke.

Desantis hasn't been able to change higher education yet enough to change rankings, thus why it is still highly ranked.

 

Yep. Wilmington is just now getting roads/bypasses proposed officially 25-30 years ago and they are basically obsolete when they open...and dont even try to drive on I-40 around Raleigh.

 

If the educational system is so great in Florida then why are teachers leaving in droves, and why are there so many teacher vacancies?

When DeSantis took office the average teacher pay in Florida ranked 47th in the nation and is now ranked 48th. The ability of teachers to educate has been replaced with the ability of someone without a high school education to dictate what is taught along with how.

 

Thank you Ron DeSantis!

 

Incorrect. It is #14 in K-12, #1 in college education, and #10 overall. That article uses the new US News and World report rankings, yes? Here they are #14 K-12, #10 overall, and #1 college. You're welcome for correcting yourself, QGator, and Bluke.

Just trying to keep you guys up to date and actually informed with facts.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/education/prek-12

 

I read a bunch of those the other day. Very few are just dealing with education. Those that have FL ranked high, cite % improvement, like FLDOE does.
Just like the graduation percentages, you know, wash everyone out who drops out before the graduation day. It is a shell game.
Best estimates I could find had us ranked somewhere from 32-42. But who knows, I was day drinking so ymmv.
Still way better than it used to be. Thanks Jeb!

There are some grade levels and subjects where Fl has been recognized as closing the achievement gaps faster than other states.

 

So how long has Desantis been Govenor? When is his tearing down the education in Florida going to take effect?

 

Florida is ranked 10 in the "best state overall" list, which includes categories other than education.

For education specifically, it looks like they do some kind of weighted combination of the K-12 and College ranks, placing us at #1.

 

I mean regardless of the data sources, this sorta kills the narrative about how terrible the Florida system is though.