100 year old woman provides a dose of reality on book bannings

Truth hurts.

 

More books banned in Martin County schools because of a complaint by 1 political activist (Moms for Liberty). I will have to let my wife know she has been reading pornography and make her toss all the Nora Roberts novels.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/04/28/ron-desantis-book-ban-nora-roberts-florida/

That’s hard to square with what just happened in Martin County, Fla. The school district there recently decided to yank from its high school library circulation eight novels by Nora Roberts that are not “pornography” at all — largely prompted by objections from a single woman who also happens to be a Moms for Liberty activist.

All of it is shocking,” Roberts told us. “If you don’t want your teenager reading this book, that’s your right as a mom — and good luck with that. But you don’t have the right to say nobody’s kid can read this book.”

Martin County is where 20 Jodi Picoult novels were recently pulled from school library shelves. This, too, was largely because of objections from that same Moms for Liberty activist, Julie Marshall, head of the group’s local chapter.

Contacted by email, Marshall declined to elaborate on her objections to Roberts’s books. A spokesperson for the school district argued that such decisions follow guidance created by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’s administration, pursuant to a law he signed last year.
But some of that guidance is ludicrously hazy. One oft-cited feature directs school officials to privilege removal if they would not be “comfortable” reading something aloud in public.

 

How is it that a book can be "banned" because of one complaint?

 

Yeah, if there’s one thing lefties hate more than fake conservatives, it’s real Libertarians.

 

Because I believe a law was passed that teachers or librarians can be charged with a crime based on any complaint.

 

As a point of information it was Dr. Seuss Enterprises that decided to stop publishing the books as originally written. It wasn't a governmental entity obsessed with censoring works that offended certain politicians and a small number of their highly vocal constituents.

 

Fixed it for you.
Yeah, if there’s one thing lefties that hate more than fake conservatives hate even more than lefties obsessed with political correctness, it’s real Libertarians who would believe that the government should not be in the business of censorship because some of their theocratic constituents are offended by literature that offends their religious sensibilities.

 

"Libertarians are Republicans who smoke pot." Not sure who said that.

 

I see that your obnoxiousness is only exceeded by your ignorance.

 

I had ignored this thread for a while but for whatever reason got intrigued by it coming back to the front page. So as I suspected...the OP is imo being disingenuous. And I do not have the time to research all 84 books that were "banned" (not really banned but moved to an appropriated grade level school). But I found this article which helps to show the real truth here. This poor 100 year old woman is being used to spread false fear.

"Jennifer DeShazo, public information director for the Martin County School District, said Wednesday that Patterson’s "Maximum Ride" series was removed from the district's elementary school libraries after a Feb. 1 reconsideration request.

That request, submitted by Stuart resident Julie Marshall, asked that all nine books in the series be removed because she considered them a young-adult series that "does not belong in elementary school libraries," she wrote in her objection form to the school district. She asked for the books to be placed in "upper-level" school libraries.

The books were removed from two elementary schools in Martin County around Feb. 20 and placed in the district’s middle schools, DeShazo said."

“The titles were reconsidered following Florida’s statutorily-prescribed process and moved from elementary libraries to middle school, which is aligned with the recommended reading age of 12+ for the series,” DeShazo said. “(Patterson’s) titles are available to students at the middle school level.”

List: Florida school district pulls 80 books for sex, racial content (tcpalm.com)

This follows the exact same fear campaign by a few posters on too hot that books are being banned in Florida. That is not the case. But they are being placed in age appropriated libraries.

Lets see if anyone peddling the "ban" lie will admit this.

 

She did get it wrong although not for the reasons that I assume you believe. Unlike the Republicans of today classic libertarians do not believe it is the role of government to intervene in personal medical decisions, they oppose censorship and with the exception of the exclusion of immigrants who may represent a threat to national security they believe in unrestricted immigration i.e. open borders.

The classic libertarian position on abortion:

Russian-born American novelist and philosopher, Ayn Rand, argued that the notion of a fetus's having a right to life is "vicious nonsense" and stated: "An embryo has no rights. [...] A child cannot acquire any rights until it is born".[5] She also wrote: "Abortion is a moral right—which should be left to the sole discretion of the woman involved; morally, nothing other than her wish in the matter is to be considered".[5] Leonard Peikoff, a close associate of Ayn Rand and co-founder of the Ayn Rand Institute, stated that:[6]

That tiny growth, that mass of protoplasm, exists as a part of a woman's body. It is not an independently existing, biologically formed organism, let alone a person. [...] Sentencing a woman to sacrifice her life to an embryo is not upholding the "right to life." The anti-abortionists' claim to being "pro-life" is a classic Big Lie. You cannot be in favor of life and yet demand the sacrifice of an actual, living individual to a clump of tissue. Anti-abortionists are not lovers of life – lovers of tissue, maybe. But their stand marks them as haters of real human beings.​

The classic libertarian position on immigration:

Economist and libertarian theorist Walter Block argues that restrictions on immigration are incompatible with libertarianism. In his view, state-enforced national boundaries are arbitrary and violently imposed, and so therefore can provide no justification for restricting the movement of immigrants or emigrants. In accordance with libertarian principles, Block holds that immigration must be permitted insofar as it does not imply aggression. Where there is a property owner willing to take in an immigrant, third parties have no grounds for complaint.
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Could not have said it better and by the way "The Storyteller" a novel by Jodi Picoult about the Holocaust and the rise of Antisemitism is one of the books banned in Martin County, Florida.

 

I agree with both positions.

It’s is not governments place to intervene in abortion. I also believe that there is a special place in hell for those who choose to terminate the life inside them.

As to immigration, I have no problem with planned, orderly immigration. We should take what we can handle with a lean towards skills and cultural values that we need. This is not what we have been doing for decades.

 

Repeat my earlier post!

 

Did any Dr. Seuss character actually kill people?
Confederates killed legions of people, both white and black.
It doesn't just "make me feel bad" - those are military leaders, judges, pols who thought black were not human, that they were worth enslaving as property, and should die.

Your comparison of seuss and confederates is just all time silly