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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. QGator2414

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    All you need to know about Pfizer and covid in their last earnings call…

    “we believe our COVID-19 franchises will remain multibillion-dollar revenue generators for the foreseeable future”

    https://s28.q4cdn.com/781576035/files/doc_financials/2022/q3/PFE-USQ_Transcript_2022-11-01.pdf

    Less than 2% of the population had taken paxlovid at the end of 2022. Add that you needed to be vaxed. Boosted. And who knows had Covid how many times…your chance of death is near zero…lol I could have told you that even if elderly.

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  2. gator95

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    And we have Randi here trying to convince people she was trying to open schools LOL. Holy crap, is she that stupid to think people don't know she was responsible for keeping schools closed so long? She is a grifter along the lines of our grifter here. Can't fix stupid.

    I'd have more respect for her if she just told the truth that this was a money grab for the teachers unions and they had no intention of teaching in person.

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  3. duggers_dad

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    Utter nonsense. There was no playbook that recommended the kind of lockdowns we experienced. Nonetheless, Trump closed travel to China early and the Democrats cried “Xenophobia!”
     
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  4. g8trjax

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    LOL, she can't re-write history on this one...from 2021.
    The American Federation of Teachers lobbied the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on, and even suggested language for, the federal agency’s school-reopening guidance released in February.

    The powerful teachers union’s full-court press preceded the federal agency putting the brakes on a full re-opening of in-person classrooms, emails between top CDC, AFT and White House officials show.
    Powerful teachers union influenced CDC on school reopenings, emails show..
     
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  5. gator95

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    Of course. Anyone with a brain knows this. Only the grifters on here think otherwise and they've been wrong on everything Covid LOL. Can't fix stupid.
     
  6. l_boy

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    So you are surprised that a union, which advocates for its employees, did so on behalf of teachers going back to school during the middle of the pandemic?
     
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  7. g8trjax

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    It is interesting he can suddenly remember what went on the past couple of years. :emoji_joy:

    According to Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt, who helped initiate the investigation alongside Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry, Fauci said “I don't recall” 174 times “including when asked about emails that he sent, interviews that he gave, and other important information.”
     
  8. AzCatFan

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    The Playbook is on this site. Page 45 of the Playbook lists the Non-Pharmaceutical measures that may be included during a pandemic. They include, but are not limited to, home isolation, dismissal of students from schools, cancelling large public gatherings, and widespread use of PPE. There is no timeline listed, because timelines are dependent upon pharmaceutical interventions.

    As for Trump's travel ban, he banned people with a Chinese passport from entering. But seven flights a day that originated in China were landing in the US, with passengers carrying passports from every country in the world, except China. Like a virus cares about what passport a person is holding! What should have done is listed in the Rubrics section of the Playbook. And it doesn't include banning travel by passport.
     
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  9. duggers_dad

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    For the first time ever the healthy were quarantined. That entailed shutting down the private sector and banning joys of living.

    Almost without exception, from country to country, excess deaths emerged AFTER lockdowns.

    The travel restrictions Trump introduced, however light, were more than the Democrats were willing to countenance. Although we both know that they’d have gotten behind a Democratic President regarding the same measures.

    Trump called for mass-testing which of course produced more ‘cases’ whereupon the Democrats blamed Trump for not stopping the spread of the fake disease and parlayed such as a talking point to oust him as POTUS.
     
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  10. AzCatFan

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    There were massive shut downs of churches, schools, and businesses during the Spanish Flu. Your first point is incorrect.

    Even with mitigation measures, unless we were going to do full lockdowns with absolutely zero freedoms, there were going to be COVID deaths. And in general, COVID was and still is the reason for excess deaths. In fact, COVID deaths were likely undercounted.

    Democrats would have supported mitigation measures that made sense. Banning people with a specific passport doesn't, because again, the virus doesn't care about nationality. Limiting flights from China, or having those coming into the country from places like China and Italy segregated until tested would have made sense. But Trump didn't do that. He only banned people with a Chinese passport from entering. Never Italians, however, despite the fact that the virus was raging through Italy, and the New York outbreak most likely originated from Italy, and not China.

    Trump didn't call for mass testing. In fact, he called for less testing, stating the only reason we have so many cases is we have too many tests! We should have followed the S. Korean model, and tested even more, and enacted a positive test tracing system. But Trump was too busy saying it was only a few cases, and it would soon, some day, magically disappear. That was, of course, before the bleach or UV light in sensitive areas speech.
     
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    After my tbi I had a problem with seizures. I have a service dog that can tell when I am getting a seizure and he somehow untriggers it. If he alerts me and barks I am supposed to lie down. Had him three years and haven’t had a seizure. Maybe it’s because it was a transitory problem. Maybe not.

    He has alerted to two children. One who had been diagnosed one who hadn’t been. I don’t know how he did it but the parents both thanked me profusely afterwards. I gave all the credit to Balto.
     
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    Restrictions during the Mother of All Pandemics ( which lasted half as long as Covid) pale in comparison to Covid lockdowns and were temporary and localized.

    Trump *eventually* called for a reduction of testing as he understood that testing produced ‘cases.’ He was right(er) than he knew when he stated that if Americans stopped testing the pandemic would end, the fraudulent test being the basis for the pseudo-pandemic.

    But bottom line, for cynical political purposes, the Democrats opposed him at every juncture. First he was too hard, then he was too soft.
     
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    NPI’s for the Mother of all Pseudoepidemics in 1918-19 were tepid compared to the barking madness of 2020. Back then it was primarily the ill who were subjected to tyranny …

    Various techniques were used to distance influenza victims from the rest of the healthy population. At the beginning of the century, infection-control measures included personal quarantine at home for the sick and their contacts, use of placards to identify places where the sick resided, keeping children at home, and isolations at the request of private physicians. As is the case today, the ill were sometimes forcibly isolated on North Brothers Island in the East River or in other state-run facilities in New York Harbor. Modified sanitary cordons, port closures, and travel restrictions at railway terminals were also identified as forms of quarantine. As other authors have explained, quarantine, even before the influenza epidemic, was a complex concept with multiple meanings and uses.15

    The 1918 Influenza Epidemic in New York City: A Review of the Public Health Response
     
  14. duggers_dad

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    The Father of Germ Theory …

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  15. gator95

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    How about we ask for the decency to not lie to the public? Is that too much to ask for. I'd have more respect for her if she just said she ordered the Code Red. Some people will dismiss anything that is against their narrative. Very telling though.
     
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    And to anyone claiming Politifact isn't biased towards liberals, the last time Randi Weingarten was fact checked was 2013 LOL. Holy crap is that funny. IF Randi were on the right does anyone actually believe that would've happened? What if Randi was for opening schools(her opposite position)? It's ok to admit it.

    PolitiFact | Randi Weingarten
     
  17. gator95

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    Florida has less standardized excess mortality than every single Sunbelt state, including California. So those saying FL did terrible during the pandemic are just playing politics. Did they do awesome? No. But they did pretty good overall.

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    Trump's rationale for calling for less testing was absurdly political. In the Donald's mind and in a bizarre way it was actually logical, fewer tests would yield fewer positive results and therefore fewer reportable cases of Covid.
     
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    “… it was actually logical, fewer tests would yield fewer positive results and therefore fewer reportable cases of Covid.”

    Thank you! Put succinctly, the only thing the Donald was right about. It was a testing-demic and nothing more. Without the test the entire edifice collapses.