Disney Sues Desantis

Think of all the time and money that will not be spent on a case that never needed to happen. What a waste.

 

This may or may not be good for MBR and rallying the MAGA base. But it seems like it is disastrous among the general electorate, independents and suburban women, as well as much of the Republican donor class. Even Trump knows it and has been rubbing it in MBR’s face.

 

Four DeSantis threads on the same page, one of them chronicling the good he’s doing for Florida Panthers.

 

Thanks for keeping count

 

It's not just an attack on Disney, but an attack on other businesses that work with Disney and their employees

 

Iger's comments. Freaking nailed it

 

I agree with Disney. DeSantis overstepped.

I agree with the baker in Colorado. Colorado overstepped

To me this is both or neither, but you cant only support one.

And before you claim I am off topic, that depends. The topic is government trying to control speech of a private entity. I am commenting directly to the topic.

 

The Panthers are about to be eliminated in the first round again. Some help!

 

What’s MBR?

 

Dear Mr. Moderate:

Enacting a law that makes it illegal to refuse to bake a cake for a gay man is completely different than the State of Florida retaliating against Disney for opposing a bill that has been introduced in the Legislature.

 

Putting aside the very narrow factual basis for that 7-2 Opinion, I think there's at least one distinction that jumps out as important.

That case wasn't about a business being punished for merely expressing a political opinion about a law or a proposed law. It was about the actual and admitted business practice of the company, and its first amendment arguments regarding why it shouldn't have to comply with the law. In contrast, I'm not aware of any allegation that Disney violated any Florida statute, and the education bill was entirely unrelated to Disney's business operations.

 

I think it's Meat Ball Ron.

 

I think there are definite similarities here, Tilly, but I also take @mrhansduck’s point that the baker case includes competing individual freedoms, whereas in the Disney case, I don’t see how there is any argument for the State’s case.

I think I’m probably ultimately on your side with the baker case, but I’m open to opposing arguments and would be really interested to see a similar case properly decided by the Supreme Court. IMO, this Disney situation doesn’t deserve to get anywhere near the Supreme Court.

 

The problem is the limiting principle, since you're giving people an opt out to civil rights laws (an opt out that doesn't stop at civil rights laws protecting LGBTQ people).

 

This is a tough one because there’s a real chance that the civil rights laws clash with the first amendment here, so either way we’d have a problem. If this is so, I side, lightly, with the baker here because the LGBTQ consumers have other options to obtain the cake. At least this side has a private solution, but again, I don’t feel overly ardent about this.

 

Segregationists could have made the same argument in 1964/65 against the Civil Rights Act. As I said, without a limiting principle, you're gutting civil rights protections.

 

I'm with you but ultimately fell on the side of the consumer. But it's certainly a clashing of rights.

 

That sounds right. Thanks.

 

I haven’t even read the complaint yet and don’t know the relevant law. But I’m assuming the state can’t admit it was all over the education bill, right? Don’t they need a better answer, whether true or not?