Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Deaths from fictitious pathogens since 1973: 0

Babies killed since 1973: it would read like a McDonald’s sign.

 

These shots would have never been approved for low risk groups if proper and basic medicine and science were used.

 

These idiot researchers should be held accountable for this…



Yet some here probably think it was proper. Covid really screwed some people up!

 

Like what? Three trial phases of increased participation? That's the standard for FDA approval, and was followed with vaccine approval. A fourth trial may be needed, depending on results. Or follow-up research based on VAERS reporting? Which was also done, and why the J&J vaccine was taken off the market, as the J&J vaccine was proven to have a risk to women of birthing age. Had there been a shortage of other vaccines, J&J might have remained on the shelf for men and older women, but there was plenty of other vaccine available. As for the other "safety signals" from VAERS, like myocarditis in younger males, all recen studies have shown the risk from vaccine is smaller than the risk from infection, especially when you consider severity.

Just about every country on the planet has approved the vaccine for people 12 and older. Are you saying it's one, giant, global conspiracy that every country didn't follow proper and basic medicine and science? What other explanation can there be?

 

Derp derp

 

Here's more information on the study. The kids were all volunteers, and kids who didn't volunteer faced no repercussions. There was also a screen between the kids and the dogs, and the picture you see is the kids lining up before the testing, when the kids were allowed to spend time with the dogs. But the actual test, the kids could not see the dogs, and handlers spent the same amount of time with each kid. The only way a kid knew if another tested dog positive is if they knew a dog sat down or now. Not possible.

The tests are now being done at nursing homes. Schools were picked first because one, there are a lot distractions, including smells at schools, and two, the kids are at lower risk. So, if there were a bunch of positives, if kids infected other kids during the test, the risks were low. Not true at nursing homes. Doing the test at a hospital, where healthcare workers were taxed for their time beyond belief is also silly. Their time was better spent treating people.

The results were interesting. The dogs weren't as accurate as the Binax test, but they had a decent accuracy rate. Enough that dogs could go into nursing homes as a first line of defense, with atual tests to follow.

Last, if my kids were asked to participate, I would have surely allowed it. Being sniffed by a dog isn't traumatic, and the advancement in science would be worth it.

 

It is actually not funny at all that some idiots took kids and lined them up to have dogs sniff them for Covid. Sadly the dogs were not very good at it either. This is what happens when you have imbeciles running things. Was the study something worth doing? Sure. But to do it on kids knowing the psychological and developmental stages in growth is malpractice and shows how obtuse and honestly evil the Covid propagandists are...

 

LOL decent accuracy rate. 18%. Figures you would think that is decent.

I feel sorry for the kids whose parents signed them up for this.

This study as Prasad said...done at a hospital on adults. Okay. On kids knowing the context of what it represents is just wrong and shows how stupid and obtuse these researchers were and are...

 

OMG! Kids were sniffed by dogs! Call Child Protective Services!!!

My kids have been sniffed by a dog pretty much daily, since birth. We had a Rotty/Shepherd mix for 14 years, and after he passed, we got a German Shepherd a few months later. And yes, when the dogs acted a little strange after being around the kid, we took notice. Dogs can often smell an infection before symptoms arise.

And where did you get a 18% accuracy rate from? From the article:

The researchers found that the dogs accurately alerted their handlers to 85 infections and ruled out 3,411 infections, resulting in an overall accuracy of 90%.

However, the dogs inaccurately alerted their handlers to infections in 383 instances and missed 18 infections, which means the dogs demonstrated 83% sensitivity and 90% specificity when it came to detecting Covid-19 infections in the study.
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Just because the dogs missed 18 infections doesn't mean their accuracy rate was 18%! Their accuracy rate was much closer to 90%. Again, not quite as good as most major tests on the market, but not a bad early warning technique.

 

Ever notice that our household pets weren’t collapsing and dying all around us ?

 

It will probably get lost in the cluster flock of a thread but this is a really good interview with Fauci. David Wallace Wells does some really good work.

Dr. Fauci Looks Back: ‘Something Clearly Went Wrong’

 

They did not miss 18 infections! They alerted to 468 kids with Covid. Only 85 had Covid. 368 did not. They got it right only 18% of the time.

And being sniffed by your dog at the house is completely different than being lined up and told not to look at your friend 6 feet away (how stupid) wearing a mask (how stupid) and to not look at the dog because they know the at a positive hit will create emotions to a kid along with a stigma. It is no surprise you are too obtuse to understand this. Then again you can’t figure out that 85 divided by 468 is 18%…

 

Q must have been sniffed excessively by dogs as a child. Maybe that explains it.

 

What went wrong was fauci was not fired by trump….

 

The dogs have a false positive 82% of the time. They got it right 18% of the time.

They are not good at the job. But they were cute.

 

Here's the link to the study from JAMA. You are correct that out of the positives, only 18%. But if you look at totals, out of the 3,897 total tests, the majority were correct negatives (87.5%). And there were only 18 false negatives (.46%). Yes, the false positives were high at 9.83%, but that's why it is important to do an actual BINAX test to confirm.

What would be interesting to look at is how many false positive kids were standing next to an accurate positive kid. Dog's noses are 1,000X to 10,000X more sensitive than human noses, and it's possible that 6 feet apart may not be far enough for a dog. It would be interesting to run an experiment with kids 10 feet apart, or 20 feet apart, and see how many false positives are returned. It's also possible that the false positives were recovering kids, with enough viral particles that the dog could smell them, but not enough for the tests to pick it up. Regardless, if a dog eliminates 88% of people from being tested, a larger number of false positives isn't a huge red flag. And again, there are likely ways to lower the false positive numbers.

As for the test, the kids could look where ever they wanted. There was a screen behind the kids, and the kids could not see the dogs sniffing. The handler likely spent 10 to 15 seconds with each kid, which gave the dog enough time to sit if they smelled something. Behind a screen, not being able to see the dog, and spending the same amount of time with each kid, it's not possible for the kids to know when the dog sat and when it didn't. Dogs sitting generally do not make a sound we can hear.

As for masks, the experiment was done during a time when masks were required to attend school in California.

 

What went wrong was Trump threw the Pandemic Playbook into the garbage, and Mr. Orange Know-it-All decided he was the expert on all things. And instead of listening to Fauci, or Blix, or anyone with actual medical knowledge, Trump did his own thing.

 

No. We let a man become self absorbed in himself to the point that he flushed basic medicine and science down the toilet…

Lockdowns are absolutely not part of a good pandemic playbook. Keeping kids out of school will go down as the biggest public health disaster of our lifetime.

But they sure had you controlled by the fear they spewed.

 

One thing I didn’t know from this interview, but have now confirmed in other sources, is that even if you are elderly, if you have been vaxxed, boosted and got Paxlovid your chance of death is zero or near zero. We still have about 250 dying every day with Covid and they pretty much all are preventable.