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Sorry Desantis, but I think Disney may have gotten the last laugh

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8tas, Mar 29, 2023.

  1. Gator715

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    They aren't for you either. You were the one who said libertarianism is stupid right? What is the alternative to libertarianism?

    Yes, there should be an Overton window. My problem is that you want to shrink the Overton window to the point where anyone who disagrees with you as a deplorable, a racist, a bigot, a Nazi. And you just proved that on this thread, again.

    You're turning an earned stigma into a power tool by branding all of your political enemies as the worst evil the world has seen in at least 150 years, probably longer than that.
     
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    What about prejudicial treatment and targeting by the DOJ or a government agency or the Soros funded Manhattan D.A.'s Office?
     
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  3. gator_lawyer

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    Imagine living in a world where you think the only two options for government are libertarianism or authoritarianism. JFC. Your UF professors would be very disappointed in you right now.

    If it makes you feel better, I don't think you're a Nazi and wasn't calling you one. I was using a meme that mocks the idea that you can be bullied into behaving a certain way. It's simply passing the buck to others for your own choices. You want to support DeSantis, but you know what he's doing is wrong. So you blame others for forcing him to it and forcing you to support it. It's nonsensical. And the meme mocks that.
     
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  4. Gator715

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    There you go again. :D

    You know you're ruffling the right feathers when Too Hot is calling you a Nazi. All that means is you're not part of their stupid hive mind.

    I wish it would be synonymous with anti-semitism or support of genocide, but that would be too inconvenient for them. Never let a good opportunity for ad hominem and irrational demonization go to waste.
     
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  5. gator_lawyer

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    1. Last I checked, the people of New York fund the Manhattan DA. So you can spare us the antisemitic Soros bogeyman.
    2. Trump being charged with a crime he may have committed isn't authoritarianism. He'll have his day in court. In fact, he isn't even being held in jail to await trial.
    3. You're going to need to be more specific about the other "prejudicial treatment and targeting" you're referencing.
     
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  6. Gator715

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    What is the opposite of libertarianism? Go.

    It's a lot more complicated than that and you're more than smart enough to understand that. You play these exact power games as well. Exhibit A: Expanding the Supreme Court. You know that it would make a complete mockery of the system but you think Republicans already did that, so might as well reap some benefit from it. "The ends justify the means."

    If you're going to be thinking that way, why can't I?
     
  7. Gator715

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    1. Koch brothers: The system is rigged by special interests and bought off politicians.
    Soros: ANTISEMITISM

    2. Wow. This is a revelation. All of a sudden, you think systemic prejudice in the justice system isn't authoritarian.

    3. No, I don't. I know how this game ends. Frankly, I don't even know why I'm still talking to you. We both know it's not going anywhere.
     
  8. G8trGr8t

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    what is the net migration number between Cali and Florida. Hint, it is a low number. quit believing your own hype

    Are Californians packing up for Florida as DeSantis says? - Los Angeles Times (latimes.com)

    The total of all those moving from California to Florida amounted to 29,000 people, based on changes in driver’s licenses. IRS data suggest that the total might be a few thousand more.

    “It’s still a fairly small number,” said University of Florida demographer Stefan Rayer.

    To put it in numerical terms, it’s not even one-tenth of 1% of California’s population of 39 million. The numbers are similarly miniscule as a share of Florida’s population of 22.2 million.
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    For every six Californians who left for Florida last year, five moved into the state from Florida, according to data from Moody’s Analytics and the credit firm Equifax.


    so 29k moved from California to Florida and 24 ,166 moved from Florida to California for a grand total of 4833 net people in favor of Florida over the course of a year. A whopping 13 people per day, don't know how the interstates handled it
     
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  9. Gator715

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    That is not what I was saying.

    I was saying people are leaving California and I was saying people were moving to Florida.

    I was not saying people were leaving from California to Florida in extraordinarily large numbers.
     
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  11. G8trGr8t

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    please show me the inflection that DeS is responsible for

    Florida Population (2021) – Country Digest

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  12. gator_lawyer

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    It's cute how you think this is a rebuttal to the point I made. Your suggestion that the only two options for a system of government are libertarianism or authoritarianism is wrong. I like liberal democracies (of the representative kind).

    Think whatever way you'd like. Just don't try to blame others for your support of policies you know to be awful. I support expanding the Supreme Court. I also support major reforms to the Supreme Court and the federal judiciary as a whole to fix the brokenness of them. That's my choice, and nobody bullied me into it.

    Republicans seized control of an unelected branch (through dishonest means) are using it to wreak havoc. Our system of governance gives the elected branches the power to do something about that. But I'd love to use expanding the Supreme Court and federal judiciary as a means to leverage the needed systemic reforms that would benefit everybody.
     
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    so, they should become a nazi because they think they are a victim of being labeled that?!?! MAGA has some wild rationalizations.
     
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    • The population of California in 2022 was 39,029,342, a 0.29% decline from 2021.
    • The population of California in 2021 was 39,142,991, a 0.91% decline from 2020.
    • The population of California in 2020 was 39,501,653, a 0.16% increase from 2019.
    • The population of California in 2019 was 39,437,610, a 0% increase from 2018.
    California Population 1900-2022.
     
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    They will do anything to own the libs, even become nazis.
     
  16. Gator715

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    This board is an absolute cesspool.

    The amount in which people deliberately miss the point to try and paint you in the worst possible light is so insane, you can't have a reasonable conversation with anyone.

    I never said anyone should become a Nazi. Nobody should become a Nazi. And you know that, but you saw a way of reading it to take a cheap shot at me, so you took it. Pathetic.
     
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  17. Gator715

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    Exhibit B
     
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    So if Newsome started gassing Repubs, you'd be in favor of DeSantis gassing Dems, right? That's the logic you are using to support DeSantis's authoritarian overreach on Disney.
     
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    Is this your new line of Bullshit? Claiming everyone is calling you Nazi…. LOL…. Your reading comprehension skills are off the charts…
     
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  20. gator_lawyer

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    Choosing to center conspiracies around a wealthy Jew manipulating government institutions is unsurprisingly going to get called out as antisemitism. There's a long history of that sort of antisemitic trope.

    Hell, George Soros didn't even directly fund Alvin Bragg's campaign. He gave money to a criminal justice reform PAC for people of color. And that PAC gave money to a number of politicians, including Alvin Bragg.

    Yet, here you are implying that Soros is pulling the puppet strings. Do you not see how that coincides with the antisemitic trope? Read ADL's rebuke of Ilhan Omar and consider what you're doing:
    https://www.adl.org/resources/press...ke-action-after-rep-omars-anti-semitic-tweets
    “As Americans and Jews, we expect our politicians to condemn bigotry, not to fuel it. Words matter. At a time when anti-Semitism is on the rise in the U.S. and abroad, Rep. Omar is promoting the ugly, anti-Semitic conspiracy theory that Jews have an outsized influence over politics. The notion that wealthy Jews are controlling the government is a longstanding anti-Semitic trope and one of the pillars of modern anti-Semitism, a retread of ideas spread by bigots from David Duke to Louis Farrakhan. As the people’s House, the House of Representatives must not tolerate any bigotry against any community in our nation. We call on the House leadership to take immediate action, so that the message is clear: anti-Semitism will not be tolerated,” said Jonathan A. Greenblatt, CEO and National Director of ADL.

    Wait, you think Donald Trump being charged with a crime is "systemic prejudice"? L-O-L. And no, our systemic racism in our criminal legal system isn't authoritarian. I've never said it is. Those are completely separate issues.

    Okie dokie.
     
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