Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Do you accept this as a valid source of data:
Age-standardised mortality rates for deaths by vaccination status, England: deaths occurring between 1 January 2021 and 31 January 2022

 

Not all. There is one contributor who rejects both severe unicorn and moderate unicorn.

 

I get you want to focus on one thing and not accept that young and healthy people are little to no risk of this disease. When you realize that you will begin to understand how medicine works. You do not rush new drugs onto groups of people that are at little to no risk.

I have posted the numbers worked out to help you with this multiple times. But you are focused on the narrative for this particular disease.

 

You keep ignoring the real world statistics. That all ages, all vaccines, all countries, the vaccinated have a lower risk of severe COVID. Here's the recent stats from the state of WA. Look at page 3. The unvaccinated hospitalization rate for people ages 12-34 is significantly higher than the rate for the vaccinated plus boostered. How many hospital stays would have been avoided had everyone, all ages 12 and up, been fully vaccinated? Again, this is why for-profit insurance companies are happy to pay for vaccinations for all employees. Paying for the ounce of prevention is much cheaper than the pounds of cure.

You also ignore any and all questions on how to practically implement a plan that just protects the most vulnerable in our society. If we're talking about seniors living in care homes, that's doable. But what about the millions of Grandparents who are primary care givers to children? The millions of teachers over 50 years old?

 

You do not push a new drug that we are seeing more and more safety signals with on a population that does not need it. The risk benefit was never there for young healthy people.

We are seeing far more excess deaths since the shot. There is unfortunately a likely reason for that. As we all know that alpha and delta were far more problematic. You keep peddling the fear nonsense and be part of the 10% (I am confident we can move it there now)....

 

Safety signals? Been researched and debunked already, except for the J&J shot and women of birthing age. 5.5 billion people have been vaccinated, and there isn't a single sign that the vaccine is causing a significant rise in deaths. Excess deaths? COVID is still a major cause, and did you know that in 2022, we saw a decrease in excess deaths as compared to 2020 and 2021? Yes, the more and more people who got vaccinated, the less excess deaths there were in N. America and Europe.

There was also no correlation between excess deaths and vaccination rates.

The website pandem-ic.com, run by Philipp Schellekens, an economic advisor at the World Bank, compared the vaccination coverage of world countries with their excess mortality. As shown in Figure 6, there was no correlation between vaccination coverage and excess mortality over the period between August and October 2022.

Thus Figure 6 shows that having a greater proportion of vaccinated people in the population isn’t associated with an increase in excess mortality. This contradicts the claim that COVID-19 vaccines are responsible for the excess deaths.​

Go an and blather about generational damage, safety signals, and other buzzwords all you want. The data simply doesn't support any of your opinions. And you know what they say. Figures don't lie, but liars figure.

 

Yes, there is one thing I'm focused on right now, your ability to interpret data.

The first step is to find a data set you are willing to accept. I offered up two data sets that you previously held up as evidence of your claims. Oddly, you now seem reluctant to accept either of these valid.

What data would you accept as valid?

 

Whatever data it is that supports his delusional beliefs and tells him what he wants to hear. I love you and Cat for continually trying to educate him, but after a while you just have to give it up. He’s never going to learn, he’s just going to continuously respond to facts and data with childish laughing emojis, and he’s going to continue to regurgitate the same crap he’s been doing since Covid first started. He’s 100% delusional and will never accept that he was wrong. It’s a lost cause.

 

People who believe in unicorns schooling other people.

 

I took the numbers and calculated them based in the situation and circumstances. You want to live in the tunnel our idiot public health officials have controlled you by. We literally just did everything the opposite of how we should have by using fear. And it sadly worked.

 

lol

 

Let me just work on this hard data...

 

At least she’s working the problem. Which is a helluva lot more than virologists do.

 

Which numbers did you use? What calculations did you apply to them?

 

I'm not sure what numbers Q used, or how they were applied. But this is how I picture him doing complicated problems:

 

This is happening in highly-vaccinated countries all over the world. What could it possibly be ?

Excess Deaths Back With a Vengeance in the UK and Germany

 

They are in this thread. They show exactly who was dying. And you know that.

 

They are in this thread with the source linked.

And how did you know that is how I got an 800 on the GRE in math?

 

You have never clearly stated which numbers you used. I know, I've spent a lot of time trying to recreate your work and have consistently failed to find a way to make the numbers you post arrive at the conclusion you claim they support.

So, here is your chance to help us learn what you have already found out.

Here is the data set you posted:
Age-standardised mortality rates for deaths by vaccination status, England: deaths occurring between 1 January 2021 and 31 January 2022

Of the 12 sheets in the file, which sheet should we be looking at, which columns on that sheet support your claim that the vaccine is useless?

 

Then show your wish list work. Explain why the Brits paid to analyze the data say unequivocally that the unvaccinated die at a higher rate than the vaccinated. How about showing any correlation between the vaccine and excess deaths.

You've done nothing of the sort. And data that disagrees with you, the only thing you can do is question the validity of the numbers. Despite all the data I've seen disagreeing with you.