Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!
  1. Hi there... Can you please quickly check to make sure your email address is up to date here? Just in case we need to reach out to you or you lose your password. Muchero thanks!

Top Secret Docs leaked on Minecraft?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Swamplizard, Apr 8, 2023.

  1. okeechobee

    okeechobee GC Hall of Fame

    10,832
    1,419
    678
    Sep 11, 2022
    Well, for years the Democrats have gone on and on about how President Trump supposedly hurt relations with key allies, mainly because he wanted NATO members to pay the share they had originally agreed to. And that was the constant drumbeat. Now you have this leak, which is imperiling relations with key allies where they would have some legitimate beef, unlike being asked to pay what they agreed to into the NATO kitty. So that's why you see the MTG's and such supporting this guy and the Democrats know the leak looks bad on the administration. That doesn't excuse the crime, which it clearly was a crime, but it's going to be politicized only because the Democrats tried to tell us for years how Donald Trump was killing relations with allies and now you have something that is actual material to said relations.

    So, of course, the right is going to call this out. But they should not be defending this guy in the process. What he did was criminal. The Tuckers and MTG's are going to make this into a whistle blower type thing, so they can point out the damage it's doing to our relations with other countries. The leak was criminal, but once the leak is out, should we all simply ignore the information in the leak as if it never happened? The press certainly isn't ignoring it.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Disagree Bacon! Disagree Bacon! x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
  2. mrhansduck

    mrhansduck GC Hall of Fame

    4,865
    1,002
    1,788
    Nov 23, 2021
    Agree that the leak looks bad - and is bad. It's on Biden's watch, which is bad for him.

    Agree that it was criminal.

    Agree that leaks are politicized.

    With respect to Tucker and MTG, I don't think it's just about Biden. Tucker is pulling for Russia. MTG is, at the very least, critical of our support of Ukraine and wants to pull funding. So I think they have motives and incentives that some other Republicans do not.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Like Like x 1
  3. citygator

    citygator VIP Member

    12,029
    2,628
    3,303
    Apr 3, 2007
    Charlotte
    So apparently the GOP approves of treating convicted murderers in Texas and top secret leaking traitors like heros. I wonder if either were an illegal alien or trans person instead of redneck white dudes how this would all be going down?
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  4. VAg8r1

    VAg8r1 GC Hall of Fame

    21,429
    1,782
    1,763
    Apr 8, 2007
    What statutes did the SCOTUS leaker violate? Just asking. He or she violated the norms of the Court and almost certainly violated the equivalent of an NDA the chances are that no criminal laws were violated although the law on the subject is rather vague.
    Explainer: Is it illegal to leak a U.S. Supreme Court opinion?
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
  5. AndyGator

    AndyGator GC Hall of Fame

    3,598
    352
    338
    Apr 10, 2007
    It's on Biden's watch? Seriously? Biden is supposed to ensure all individuals with granted Secret and TS clearance abide by the law how? No president can do that. Not sure if even God himself could do that.

    The attributed partisan blame totally baffles me sometimes.
     
    • Winner Winner x 7
    • Disagree Bacon! Disagree Bacon! x 1
  6. BigCypressGator1981

    BigCypressGator1981 GC Hall of Fame

    6,707
    1,374
    3,103
    Oct 11, 2011
    Kid needs to be locked up for a while at a minimum.

    having said that, if this dipshit kid could access it and post in on Minecraft then I’m certain it’s nothing our enemies don’t already know well.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  7. Swamplizard

    Swamplizard VIP Member

    4,103
    781
    1,833
    Apr 3, 2007
    Orlando, Florida
    Well they locked up that other dumb kid on the Sub that took 6 pictures (sure he shouldn't have) but he got a year in jail and 6 months home confinement

    US Navy sailor jailed for taking photos of classified areas of nuclear submarine
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  8. mrhansduck

    mrhansduck GC Hall of Fame

    4,865
    1,002
    1,788
    Nov 23, 2021
    Oh, I agree with you. But as a political reality, presidents get both blame and credit they don't deserve by virtue of their position. That's all I was trying to acknowledge.
     
  9. gatorbrian

    gatorbrian Junior

    187
    68
    223
    Apr 3, 2007
    I couldn't say, unless you're suggesting that the legalities of the leak are what prevented the media from focusing on the contents of the SCOTUS draft and not the person(s) responsible?
     
  10. VAg8r1

    VAg8r1 GC Hall of Fame

    21,429
    1,782
    1,763
    Apr 8, 2007
    Maybe you do not recall, the media did cover the leak of the abortion decision draft as least as extensively as they covered Teixeira's leak of the top secret documents. I did a quick Google search using the terms "abortion decision leak" and got over 10 million hits hardly an indication that it was ignored by the media. The reason the media didn't focus on the person responsible for the leak was because he or she was never identified. Speculation was that it could have been one of Justices, maybe even Alito himself the author of the opinion, one of the law clerks or possibly even a clerical employee of the Court. As a previous poster suggested maybe the Court itself didn't want the leaker identified to avoid embarrassment especially if the evidence was a pointing to a Justice.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  11. okeechobee

    okeechobee GC Hall of Fame

    10,832
    1,419
    678
    Sep 11, 2022
    It’s on Biden’s watch, because the content leaked would not have existed without Biden’s proxy war in Ukraine. It’s only relevant because it revealed how deeply the United States is involved in Ukraine. As Biden said, there’s nothing tremendously consequential in the documents. Other than how they illuminate the administration’s lack of transparency with the American people and our allies.
     
    • Disagree Bacon! Disagree Bacon! x 3
    • Funny Funny x 1
  12. duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

    16,449
    1,208
    2,088
    Jan 5, 2022
    Seen on the internet and strikes me as plausible …

    1) The leaked documents about Ukraine plan are fake.

    2) The 21-year-old kid Jack Teixeira is just a pawn.

    3) The real objectives of this staged drama:

    (a) Mislead Russians about war plans (

    (b) More importantly, pass all kinds of censorship and monitoring laws regarding US social media and the internet. Patriot Act on steroids. This is needed as the empire slowly collapses and faces the possibility of chaos and civil war.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  13. okeechobee

    okeechobee GC Hall of Fame

    10,832
    1,419
    678
    Sep 11, 2022
    How does MTG taking up for this dude help Russia? The damage is already done. It’s definitely about Biden. MTG wants Trump to win in 2024. If you mean the American people having more information about how involved we have become in Ukraine (even though we apparently think they’ll fail) is going to cause a shift in sentiment here at home, well that might just happen.
     
    • Come On Man Come On Man x 2
  14. docspor

    docspor GC Hall of Fame

    5,869
    1,859
    3,078
    Nov 30, 2010
    you kinda ans your own question. all else equal, it encourages this kind of behavior as somehow being OK which can lead to more of it. Giving mixed signals to anti-American shit stains is what anti-American shit stains do. I guess pubs don't think it's fitting to strip her of her committee assignments or even censure her....I guess it's not like she refused to promulgate the Stop the Steal scam. stuff of radical commie regimes.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  15. Spurffelbow833

    Spurffelbow833 GC Hall of Fame

    9,632
    766
    1,293
    Jan 9, 2009
    Texeira's best legal move at this point would be to put on a dress and trade in his pronouns.
     
    • Funny Funny x 3
    • Come On Man Come On Man x 1
  16. chemgator

    chemgator GC Hall of Fame

    13,799
    1,949
    1,318
    Apr 3, 2007
    Older people are more capable of understanding the consequences, for one thing. They are less likely to live in a fantasy world, for another.
     
  17. docspor

    docspor GC Hall of Fame

    5,869
    1,859
    3,078
    Nov 30, 2010
    lines seem blurred a lot when 1's an anti american shit stain.
     
    Last edited: Apr 14, 2023
    • Winner Winner x 1
  18. docspor

    docspor GC Hall of Fame

    5,869
    1,859
    3,078
    Nov 30, 2010
    I remember my first beer too. I guess yours was not a bud light.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  19. chemgator

    chemgator GC Hall of Fame

    13,799
    1,949
    1,318
    Apr 3, 2007
    Maybe a person in the military needs to be an officer of a certain level, like captain in the Army, to be allowed to routinely see top secret information. That would rule out younger people, and irresponsible people, as they presumably would not reach that level of responsibility. A private or sergeant could still see top-secret intelligence that related directly to activities he was involved with (attacking an enemy position, for example), but nothing else. And yes, there are obviously some captains that are not responsible people, so there would still have to be some vetting going on. But that would be a starting point. From my internet search, I noticed that a person could theoretically be a captain at age 23, but that would be extremely rare--even age 26 is considered fairly young for a captain.

    Average ages per rank in US Military
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  20. g8trjax

    g8trjax GC Hall of Fame

    5,225
    461
    293
    Jun 1, 2007
    One man's traitor is another man's whistle blower...totally depends on the color of the party in power.
     
    • Disagree Bacon! Disagree Bacon! x 2