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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. AzCatFan

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    On a micro level, there are doctors who understand their patients and feel the patient would lose confidence in the doctor if they recommended the shot. But the 96% of the doctors who are fully vaccinated probably think those patients are "difficult." And all things being equal, these doctors would follow the recommendations of Johns Hopkins, the CDC, and the AMA, which all recommend fully vaccination and boosters for all who are eligible. And while there are outliers, the overwhelming majority of doctors follow the recommendations of these major organizations. Again, there are likely doctors who understand the suggestion of a vaccine or booster for a specific individual may do more harm than good, but all things being equal, doctors are recommending the vaccine.
     
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  2. duggers_dad

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    Millions killed. Hundreds of millions thrown into poverty. Billions of life-years lost. Trillions transferred from workers to billionaires — all for nothing.

    Crickets from the left.
     
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  3. QGator2414

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    LOL!!!

    There is a reason no one is taking these shots today. While surely a majority of doctors did choose to take the shots. A majority now are not recommending them. There are a multitude of reasons doctors took the shot. Many had to in order to keep their job. Really evil. Especially knowing what we do now. But 96% is a survey from the AMA. It is not that high.

    I really do hope you have made the decision not to give your kids anymore of these shots. At the same time I respect you should make that decision. I highly suggest you seek advice from doctors in the trenches and get away from these bureaucrats in public health that have caused so much damage.
     
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  4. AzCatFan

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    You are making the claim a majority of doctors are not recommending the shots. Any proof? Do you really think a majority of doctors are going to ignore the recommendations of the CDC, AMA, Johns Hopkins, and others? Or maybe, you are just one of the "difficult" patients and doctors aren't recommending the shot just to you?
     
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  5. QGator2414

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    The proof is the reality that no one is taking them anymore. Good grief you cant turn the radio on without hearing our idiot public health paying for advertising to get people to go take these shots. Yet no one is taking them anymore.
     
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  6. HeyItsMe

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    He has yet to post a single article showing that doctors aren’t suggesting it for their patients, so don’t count on one anytime soon. He will, however, gladly post a Dr. Drew video from YouTube for you, lol.
     
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  7. QGator2414

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    On a side note...was out watching my wife play a little tennis this morning. One of our good friends (wife of the Oral Surgeon we work with more than any other) walks up. Actually had a fun little discussion on covid and the idiocy of it as I was about to take my son to be tested for strep which brought the subject up. They are about 10 years older than us and never took the shot. In fact her husband told the hospital to pound sand when they pushed the shot on doctors who worked there. No doubt he was in the minority when this was going on in 2021. But he has been proven right. And his colleagues know it.
     
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  8. duggers_dad

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    “A majority now are not recommending them”. What is that based on? You have been antivax from the start.


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    Physician Poll: Medical Misinformation is Harming Patients
     
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  10. duggers_dad

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    Corrected: “Medical is harming patients.”
     
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    Problem here in the US is if any MD decides to stray from the covid reservation they are summarily crucified.
     
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  12. duggers_dad

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    Just imagine a soldier saying, “Nope, I’m not fighting in any wars.”
     
  13. QGator2414

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    I have not been anti vax from the start. That is a lie. At this point with what we know...I waiver on whether anyone should have taken these shots. A lot of that has to do with anecdotal personal experience with shot/injury of a close friend. If that circumstance had not happened I would not be as waivering if you were high risk and not had covid when the shots first hit the market...I would have recommended to take it. But I absolutely supported taking the shots if you were high risk and had not had covid. And I might have been wrong with that based on what we know now. You can go and read all I wrote back at that time. So spare me the lie.

    You my friend are defining mass formation psychosis. The tunnel visioned approach we took is the one and only answer. Sadly this is push in public health is/was the antithesis of medicine and science. Propaganda is a powerful tool. It is really baffling so many smart people got caught up in the psychosis. But most have realized this now. We are getting there.
     
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  14. QGator2414

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    So many silently went with the narrative. Today...they silently do not follow the guidance. But you have to go talk to them.

    It is human nature not to admit it. Most will move on silently. A lot fell for the propaganda. A lot were compelled to take a shot they had questions about. But there is a reason no one is taking a shot anymore that still has commercials being paid for daily to promote it by the government. Doctors are not joining in the promotion.
     
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  15. AzCatFan

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    You have no clue what "public health" means. It's not done on an individual basis, but promotes what is best for the general public at large. In medicine, what's good for the goose isn't necessarily good for the gander, but if 90% of the population are geese, public health dictates to promote what is best for them.

    Every study done has shown at all age groups, the vaccine saves hospital visits and lives. There may be some individuals who were exceptions, but again, you don't push public health initiatives based on the minority, or individuals. Public health means helping the most people as possible. Or in other words, the general public.

    The mass psychosis is the result of the small, anti-science minority having a large bullhorn with social media. Instead of easily be drowned out by experts, people easily found Dr. Drew and other people wearing lab coats telling them what they wanted to hear, even if the information was complete BS. It's the death of expertise that will cause more harm in the future than any vaccine.
     
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  16. HeyItsMe

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    Your arrogance is out of this world, and yet you still have not provided a single article from any source, much less a reputable source, stating that doctors are telling patients not to get the shot because there simply aren’t any. Please stop making shit up and spreading misinformation, it’s really, really gotten old. You need to start providing articles and peer reviewed studies to support your argument instead of just saying stuff like “I played tennis with my oral surgeon today and he said this.” It’s beyond nauseating listening to you at this point. If you worked in the medical field, you would be laughed out of the building and your license suspended for providing no proof of anything whatsoever and spreading blatant misinformation.
     
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  17. duggers_dad

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    I know what ‘public health’ means. It means mass-manslaughter this past three years.
     
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    Also, I know what ‘arrogance out of this world’ means. It means “Stop telling us that our fears were wholly without basis!”
     
  19. QGator2414

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    Public health is suppose to look at an entire population and pushing an unproven drug that ended up not working on a healthy population that did not need it is the antithesis of public health. It is the antithesis of medicine. It is the antithesis of science.

    Fortunately doctors understand this. Unfortunately they are dealing with idiots in public health who continue to push a drug unnecessarily. Shoot. We still won’t let a legal non citizen enter the country if they have not taken the shot. But if you want to come illegally it’s all good.

    You will get there my friend. Eventually you will see the light.
     
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  20. QGator2414

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    The data and numbers speak. I don’t need to cite an article. Just look at how many shots are being given. Old Bernie is upset because they are about to increase the price big time because no one is taking it. But of course a few people who got it right in the beginning are the reason people are not taking the shot now as people daily hear advertisements to go take them. The vast majority of people and doctors get it. You might be part of the 10ish% that still does not.

    You will get there. I have faith. In fact you probably are there but won’t admit it.
     
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