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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

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    LOL!

    He got it right. You might be part of the 10% that still wants to take these shots and does not understand seroprevalence and risk benefit still.

    But a large majority do now.
     
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  2. QGator2414

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    No he didn’t. You were/are going to get Covid. Regardless of whether you take the shot.
     
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  3. QGator2414

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    Big pharma appreciates you my friend.

    Seroprevalence says hi as well.
     
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  4. QGator2414

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    I am not changing the subject. I am noting the shots do not keep you from getting Covid. You want to focus on “A” study that said Covid might have a higher incident rate. So you can guarantee a possible incident. Or you can live life minimizing the risk and deal with Covid when you get it. You are going to get Covid. But you keep focused on the tunnel instead of the big picture.
     
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  5. tilly

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    My visits to this thread these days... [​IMG]
     
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  6. philnotfil

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    Did you read the article?
     
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  7. duggers_dad

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    Granted, some are bored with discussing the greatest mass-delusion in history and stupendous crimes against humanity.
     
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  8. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    More like some are bored watching this:
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  9. duggers_dad

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    Granted, it is boring INSIDE the bubble. The people outside the bubble are (hopefully) just getting started. Read yesterday about a Montessori School that’s still partitioning children, making them wear masks outside and enforcing “silent lunches.” The children who started there, in 2020, have never experienced a day of normalcy. But it’s all a logical extension of belief in contagion.
     
  10. QGator2414

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    Yes.

    You had 4 UF doctors upset he did not include what they wanted to see. It does not change anything other than for those pushing a narrative. A wrong narrative and bad guidance at that. They just wanted to be able to say there was ”a” study showing Covid (which the shot does not prevent at this time) might have more incidences. It was and is irrelevant to proper guidance. Thankfully Ladapo has allowed them to voice their concern while at the same time not backing down and standing for the proper guidance he provided.
     
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  11. QGator2414

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    There will be some important information we will need going forward imo. I agree most have moved on like yourself. But it is important we keep pressuring to get answers.

    Those answers could be Covid only. They could be the shot only. They could be Covid and the shot. But no one is asking them. And that is part of the scandal.
     
  12. AzCatFan

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    Only that study was done in conjunction with the American Heart Association, and there were other studies that were cited in this study that also showed the chances of heart incident was much higher after COVID infection versus vaccination. The one study that showed otherwise is very limited, and today, not only is the vaccine recommended for all over 12, it's true in almost all European countries as well.

    Dr. Lapado had a conclusion, took a small study that supported it, and ignored all the other data that was contradictory. That's not science. That's quackery. A real scientists at least admits the conclusion isn't settled and all the data doesn't support his conclusion. Had Lapado done that in his report, and included the study that didn't support his conclusion, different story. But he didn't do that, and now, there are other studies that show again, conditions such as myocarditis and POTS are much higher among those who get an infection versus those vaccinated. In short, Dr. Lapado used an incomplete data set to reach his conclusion, didn't include the contradictory data that might allow others to question his opinion, and in the end, his conclusion has been proven incorrect. Vaccinated people are much less likely to suffer a cardiac issue.

    Speaking of studies you like to ignore, how many more that show vaccinated also have a much lesser chance of a severe outcome with an infection do you need to see before you accept this as truth? And even if the vaccine doesn't prevent anyone from getting sick (which it does), if it significantly lowers hospitalization and death rates, isn't that a good reason to get vaccinated?
     
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  13. duggers_dad

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    Why are both camps determined to ignore the absence of evidence for viruses ?
     
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  14. HeyItsMe

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    I think we all know that answer to that.
     
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  15. philnotfil

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    But I at least have to give him the chance.
     
  16. QGator2414

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    And I answered.
     
  17. philnotfil

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    With a clear desire to not understand the words.
     
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  18. HeyItsMe

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    “LOL!”

    There, I saved you the time of reading his next response.
     
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  19. QGator2414

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    With clear desire to make an educated decision on the situation. When the standard for practicing medicine gets ignored…that becomes a big part of analyzing all the data. It is not easy in this climate for sure.

    I would bet you are not part of the 10% but are sure not helping them understand how wrong you and they have been.

    Hopefully we will start to get the answers. Covid/Shot/Covid and Shot for what is happening. Unfortunately it will be really hard to do and based on how this all played out. They are going to try and cover up the disaster they created.
     
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  20. docspor

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    long covid's a bitch....

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