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Gator Baseball 2023 Official Roster Tracker/Lineup???

Discussion in 'GatorGrowl's Diamond Gators' started by Matherly87, Jun 12, 2022.

  1. fat_gator

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    but what your missing here is Roberston is in front of Wyatt the rest of the game after 1st inning. But he did not fare well against what I would say was our toughest pitching team as of yet. Robertson was only on base 2x all 3 games. 1 for 10 and 1 walk. When he was in leadoff spot you guys all thought it was marvelous, I WANTED Langford there because he was proven. It is no different with Robertson in the 9 hole other than he don't have to be our first at bat(where Langford shines). He will also see better pitching in the 9 spot. Hopefully there he can continue to find his way on base in front of Langford. As well as these two are getting on base, it is ideal for the next two batters of Cags and Rivera who are as hot as anyone.
     
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  2. shane4three

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    Great post. Both teams had to pitch in completely abysmal weather. Hats off to several kids on both teams that were pretty darn good on the mound this weekend in probably some of the worst weather they’ll see this year. Feels like temp had to be mid 30’s at best.
     
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  3. shane4three

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    My takeaway from what the stats say.
    Hitting-The stats say:
    Rivera is so far the real deal

    Heyman gotta stay in the line up. Dude is mashing for a true freshman.

    Halter- solid- love this dude!!
    Langford- when the Trenton Thumper gets going look out!!! Kudos to Wyatt’s patience with 15 walks in Sec play.

    Evans and Kurland may need to platoon or be replaced. Prevesk, Thomas, Shelnut may need more time.

    Pitching- again the stats say our pen has been really good.
    Abner, Slater, Neely, and Nesbitt all with excellent ERA’s. Thank goodness for this turnaround from the pen and that is without Ficcarota, Purnell, and Jameson performing to what we had hoped.
    Expect to see one of the 4 mentioned above as our number 3 starter against Georgia. Sully made it sound this way and hearing probably happening.
     
  4. Matherly87

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    I do get what you have been saying. I admit the stats are proving your desire for Langford to lead off, for now. And yes experience has shown he does great as a leadoff. But stats can also be used in the opposite way. Like you said, Robertson batted 9th and was only on twice all three games. Sure it was better pitching that he hasn't seen yet. But he probably didn't see any easier pitching in the 9 spot last weekend and being "in front" of Langford didn't help either. I'm not trying to discredit you, only speak that stats can prove many different things if you dig deep enough. I am surprised that Langford is not as good a hitter with runners on base or when he comes to bat with 2 outs. But if he leads off every inning, neither of those two stats should matter. Many on here, myself included, have a more traditional desire of baseball's history. Did the Braves do it wrong by having Hank Aaron bat 4th but Ralph "The Roadrunner" Garr batted first? And you can answer with some big dude that bats first in today's game and say see they know what they are doing. I really don't care because I don't follow most pro team sports any more. Maybe it would be better if we ask does Miami have it wrong by batting Morales 4th or is Jacksonville wrong for batting Armstrong 4th? Its still an opinion, for each there own. We both love Gator Baseball is what counts and we want to see them do better no matter if they are 27-6 or 28-5. So I agree Langford will probably stay as the leadoff on this team the rest of the season. The stats seem to guide that. But I still hope Robertson becomes the leadoff/base stealing extraordinaire that I hope he becomes next year.
     
  5. Matherly87

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    Breaking news its Ryan Slater starting against the Noles, no shocker here. The Noles are sending out RHP Ben Barrett (0-0, 4.91) who starter against us last time and went 4 innings giving up 4 hits and 1 earned run on 56 pitches. Slater did not appear in the last game against them. Last time the Noles sent out several arms that have started multiple games for them because just about every pitcher the Noles have has an ERA higher than 4.50. About the only good arm they have is Wyatt Crowell but he hasn't pitched since March 11.
     
  6. Matherly87

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    Here's an interesting stat in the writeup....

    SLATER-AID
    Tuesday starter Ryan Slater is making his fifth-career start including his second of the 2023 campaign. In his first start of the year, the Palm Harbor, Fla. native held Jacksonville to one run on three hits over four innings, striking out four. In his last three appearances, Slater owns a 1.08 ERA, .167 batting average against and 11 strikeouts against one walk across 8 1/3 innings. Coincidentally, he was the winning pitcher when Florida walked off FSU at home on May 17 of last season.

    Maybe Sully likes sending reminders.
     
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  7. diamondguy

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    Good call on Slater - hopefully he seizes the opportunity.
     
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  8. ocalaman

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    To me, with Slater starting tonight means he won't be the Sunday starter. My guess is Neely or Nesbitt starts Sunday, depending on whether or not Sully wants to try out a new closer.
     
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  9. MatsideObserver

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    Would be pretty shocked to see Sully throw Slater (or anyone else for that matter) 150 pitches in a week.
     
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  10. jdgator

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    Don't see Neely moving out of the closer role.
     
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  11. gator1977

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    Yes- good call-- perhaps 150 pitches is too much- agreed. The flip side would be Sully gives Cags another shot at starting at home but changing the prep on Saturday with Cags DH only and see if he can right the ship.
     
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  12. backstopgator

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    some observations from watching the team so far......
    You can't judge players with less than 70 ABs the sample size is way to small to be meaningful. Also I love the way Sully manages the pitching staff moving guys in or out depending on if they are going well or having trouble. I mean he runs through 10 pitchers a game if needed. I just wish that Jerolomann would do the same with the offense. The key to success in the SEC championships and Omaha is being able to find the hot hand both in pitching and in the lineup. I mean he sticks with the same 9-10 guys no matter what and then we end up with games like Sunday. Would love to see more player rotation in the 6-9 part of batting order. Let's let the 2 lefty hitting outfielders get more time -the transfer and prevesk. The transfer according to Sully can play CF, RF and left. Robertson has been a weak slap type hitter in the 9 hole -hasnt stolen bases I think he isn't in the top 20 in the SEC for steals and his d is questionable especially when a ball is hit at the wall or over his head. I don't think I need to elaborate on Evans but he definitely needs an extended rest. I also think Heyman should be starting catcher with BT as back up or do lefty/righty matchups - BT can rotate at DH or 1B too. Too many strike outs and no productivity from the 8-9 holes especially in the SEC play. It looks like Sully runs the pitchers one way and Chuck runs the lineup differently. This team can be special but everyone needs to be ready u don't win championships with the same 9 guys.
     
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  13. diamondguy

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    Kind of my thought as well but also thinking that we haven't had much use for Neely as a closer so far. Even though he has saves they haven't been high leverage. Seems like Byrne was always throwing a pitch that could decide the game - we haven't seen that this season. We have maybe had a handful of games decided by 3 runs or less.
     
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  14. MatsideObserver

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    Better to have him and not need him than to need him and not have him available and we are going to need him down the stretch and in the post season. Last year the lack of a guy at the backend of the bullpen was a killer all the way down to the last game.
     
  15. 74nole

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    First off, no inside information here on this topic. Just my opinion but I think looking at next year after the draft and graduation there’s not much to expect but for Neely to be right back in the middle of the weekend rotation because of his past experience.

    That said, it wouldn’t surprise me to see him moved back into the Sunday slot. Like you said he hasn’t been put in high leverage save situations to this point and it’s already past the season halfway point.

    It will be interesting to see what decisions are made and how they impact the team and play out.
     
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  16. Matherly87

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    Great point that's why I think Neely would be more useful if he gets back into the starting role. That said some of our toughest series are still in front of us.
     
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  17. fat_gator

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    most of Tenn players have played in that kinda misery before, that was my point. Baseball IS a Mental game and little things can effect kids
     
  18. fat_gator

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    NO, Miami has there BEST hitter batting lead off! CJ is OBP% is highest on team and btw has more homeruns than yoyo. JU has Malloy up front ( highest ob%) and is a great base runner who is a threat to steal bases. We have 2 guys who have hit more homeruns than Langford so why not have him at top. It would be one thing if we had a true blue lead off guy but we dont. Most you guys want Robertson there because they said he is fast...period. His speed does not transfer to bases, he does not run bases well at all. Bring E.B. from Vandy and he can take over 1 hole
     
  19. backstopgator

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    Couldn't agree more ! What will it take for Jeroloman to finally sit the freshman CF and let the transfer grad OF get a shot -enough already!
     
  20. apkgator

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    I assume you mean Sheik....who has played in 17 games and is hitting 219 (125 in conference) and still has more AB than Prevesk? You want to play him over a guy hitting 277 (256 in conference)? Am I missing something here?
     
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