Roe v Wade Overturned

Republicans have completely underestimated how much pushback there is going to be over Dobbs. I think some are stupid enough to think they weathered the storm in the 2022 midterms and the issue will blow over. They have no idea how pissed people are about it , but they will certainly get an idea when initiatives start popping up everywhere to get abortion rights measures on 2024 general ballots.
People see what Ron DeSaster is doing to curtail rights in Florida and other states copying those things. While this will harden their base, it is certainly not going to grow it.

 

Idaho’s abortion travel ban is incredibly cruel | Moira Donegan

Idaho Republicans are seeking to restrict women and girls’ right to travel. Less than a year ago, the state banned abortion with a trigger law that went into effect after the supreme court overturned the abortion right in Dobbs v Jackson Women’s Health. Now, Idaho is looking to stop young women from travelling out of state for their procedures – and to criminalize those that help them. A bill that sailed through the state’s house of representatives and advanced in the state senate last week would make it a crime to transport a minor for the purposes of obtaining an abortion without the consent of her parents. The bill creates a new felony crime, so-called “abortion trafficking”, that’s punishable by two to five years in prison.

The bill would criminalize an aunt or grandmother who drives a teenage girl over the border for a legal abortion in Oregon. It would make a felon of the school friend who lends her money for a bus ticket, or the older sister who takes her to the post office to pick up a package with secretly mailed pills. The legislation also contains a provision giving the Idaho attorney general the ability to override the jurisdiction of local prosecutors on this charge – so if a local DA doesn’t want to prosecute those who help scared and desperate teenagers, the state can enforce its sadism anyway.

The law is notable as one of the first post-Dobbs efforts to limit women and girls’ right to travel, a project that is likely to accelerate as Republican state legislatures look for ways to enforce pregnancy and ensure women in their states cannot circumvent abortion bans. In his concurrence in Dobbs, Brett Kavanaugh, who has been credibly accused of sexual assault by multiple women and voted to overturn the abortion right, wrote that he would consider bans on interstate travel unconstitutional. Such is what passes for moderation in the anti-choice movement: not all of those who want the state to be able to commandeer women’s insides also want the state to be able to imprison women within their borders for the purpose.

But the law is written with a kind of technical cleverness: technically it only criminalizes travel within the state borders for the purposes of obtaining an abortion. The problem is that virtually any travel out of state requires in-state travel, too: the felony at play covers any aid given in helping a pregnant young woman travel to the state border from her own front door. “They’re not criminalizing people driving in Washington state with a minor. The crime is the time that someone is driving the minor in Idaho,” David Cohen, a law professor at Drexel University who studies abortion, told HuffPost. “They’re going to say what they’re doing is just criminalizing actions that take place completely within Idaho, but in practice what they’re criminalizing is the person helping the minor.” Will this effort persuade a court? It might. Flimsier pretexts and more strained technicalities have been accepted as rationales for restricting abortion access by a federal judiciary that is contemptuous towards women’s rights. More attacks on the right to travel from anti-choice zealots can be expected.

 

So driving while pregnant will be a thing in Idaho.

 

LMFAO! Well, when you say it like that.

 

Florida closes in on six-week abortion ban while also allowing no-permit gun carry

FL senate approves 6 week abortion ban, on to the house.

 

Kind of reflects the Republican philosophy that the right to life begins at conception and ends at birth.

 

Another post-Roe election in which the prolifers lost. Since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade in almost every election in which the right to choose was one of the primary issues even indirectly the prolifers have lost. It seems as far as the Republicans are concerned the overturning of Roe could very well be a case of being careful what you wish for.
Liberal judge wins in Wis. Supreme Court showdown
The issue of abortion transformed the Wisconsin Supreme Court race
Kelly's work for anti-abortion group raised in 2023 Wisconsin Supreme Court race
Although abortion was a major factor, interestingly the most significant impact of the Wisconsin Supreme Court election will not be whether or not the state's 1849 law banning all abortions could be resurrected, it will most likely be a holding overturning the extreme gerrymandering that gave Republicans a disproportionate share of seats in the state's legislature as well as in it's congressional delegation. Although very indirect one consequence of Roe could be the loss of the Republican majority in the House of Representatives.

 

I really do think democracy is too ingrained in our society for such radically unpopular positions to be held over the majority by a minority. It just takes time to shake out. That is my optimism.

 

I think for years, state-level Republicans have been able to rail against Roe without having to take action. Similarly, they can rail against various other Federal programs that help people in their states. The more successful they are in prevailing on those sorts of federalism arguments, the more focus these sorts of issues will become at the state level. And I guess we will see how that shakes out practically.

 

Sorry for the gun carry comments on the abortion thread but I hadn't seen this mentioned anywhere else.

I am as pro-gun(lawfully of course) as anybody, but this no-permit law is a really bad idea in my opinion. I have had a permit for years, and I have done a fair amount of research on the various CWL training requirements available to the public. The majority of them, in my experience, are a joke. Anybody with half a brain can complete the requirements, yet I don't believe said requirements adequately prove a high enough level of carry proficiency. If anything, at least there was a process you had to follow in order to obtain the CWL, so it did require some effort. Come July anyone can just freely carry. Bad idea.

 

The Wisconsin election once again shows what a powerful issue abortion is for Democrats. Wisconsin is pretty evenly divided overall but the pro-choice candidate beat the forced-birth candidate by 11 points. With Florida's new 6 week ban, I think we should see Dems make some gains in 2024, though between gerrymandering and Florida Dems lack of organization, it's hard to say how much.

 

Oklahoma passed a similar law in 2019, gun deaths went up by 20%.

 

Coming to a red state near you in two years.

People Are Too Terrified To Get Pregnant Under Poland’s Harsh Abortion Law

 

Texas judge halts FDA approval of abortion pill

 

The result:

 

The unthinkable tragedy of having to drive to another state to kill your offspring. It’s a mysterious tremendum.

 

I thought Buckhorn would have been a great candidate. Guess he’s enjoying making a boatload of money too much to stop.

 

In contrast to women staying in their own states so they can end up like these women did in a couple of so called "pro-life" countries.
Death of a dentist in Ireland denied an abortion has worried doctors who say history may repeat in U.S.
Protests flare across Poland after death of young mother denied an abortion

 

These stories are going to get a lot of people very, very angry. They will express that anger with their checkbooks and at the polling places. Get a dedicated abortion rights constutional amendment on Florida's 2024 general election ballot.

 

Let’s just throw this on the ever growing pile of nonsense.



Making rape victims pay for their own care.