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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. duggers_dad

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    The guy went from sex advice/comedy show on MTV to the preferred source for handling a global pandemic. Yeah, makes perfect sense…
     
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  3. duggers_dad

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    If a sex therapist was in charge, in 2020 - and just gave sex advice, nothing else - I suspect far, FAR fewer would have died.
     
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  5. docspor

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    something this dumb almost makes me think someone's hacked his acct & is trolling him. Gee, I wonder if someone's trying to sucker suckers by selling a book!!!! &, yep, I'm right. A simple 5 mins & long Covid Q coulda found a total destruction of this con man's "arg". But, it's on youtube & he uses numbers!
     
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  6. duggers_dad

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    Long Unicorn.
     
  7. gatorpa

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    Simply put Flu. cases dropped massively because people were wearing masks and many across the world were staying home or had decreased exposure to others. Add in school closures and the flu cases will drop precipitously. Notice how flu had a rebound the following year when people mostly went back to normal behaviors?


    But why debate it because viruses don’t exist. The flu is just caused by some contagious toxin that appears seasonally.
     
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  8. gator95

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    Grift On! I guess I need to post this grifters posts from a few years again LOL. Too easy!
     
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    Pretty much any healthcare professional in a clinical setting could tell you the same thing. They saw almost zero flu for an entire year+. They test for flu, so seems strange to think “it’s a conspiracy” when literally anyone working in a hospital or walk-in ER type setting would have the same observations as far as the high frequency of covid cases they were seeing vs. the increasingly rarer flu cases. Once we were past Omicron and people stopped “respecting” COVID as a threat, the flu also re-emerged.

    The explanation seems pretty obvious to me, covid must have spread much more easily. Where mitigation efforts only partially worked against the higher R0 virus (covid) , they almost totally shut down the circulation of lower R0 virus (influenza). Essentially, it was math. COVID R0 remained >1.0 R0 even with mitigation, whereas influenza fell below 1.0 for a time.
     
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  10. duggers_dad

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    The flu is detox. Not a virus. The reason I doggedly press the existential question is because as long as the medieval belief in cough and kill Grandma persists, the government can and likely will go medieval on us.
     
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    The only thing that spread easily was the fraudulent test. And after more than three years people STILL can’t stop testing.
     
  12. AzCatFan

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    Please do. I will simply post the link from the Swedish COVID-19 Commission. I suggest you actually read it. It goes far beyond the simple headlines. When you are done reading it, if you are interested in actual debate, here are some questions to ponder.
    1. Did Sweden do well or poorly in the early months of the pandemic?
    2. Despite no government mandates, on a scale of 1-10, how much did average Swedish life change when the Swedish government made suggested changes?
    3. Did the Commission believe the Swedish government did enough to prevent the spread during the second and third waves, or did they think they could have done more? (here's a hint: look at the restaurant closing suggestion)
    4. By looking at data such as decreased Swedish mobility and increased work from home rates, how well did the Swedes react to the government suggestions to stay at home?
    5. After reading this Commission report and understanding the data, do you think the excess mortality rate in the US would have been higher, lower, or the same as Sweden if the US had followed the Swedish model?
    I know the answers I'll get. "Grifter. Charlatan. Too easy!" Which require zero intellectual ability or critical thinking ability.
     
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  13. gator95

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    Here are the Grifter's takes on Sweden in the past. Notice the "Sweden didn't lock down" bit. This clown thinks he can just make up crap and people will believe it. Don't worry gang, the grift lives on! I'll just keep posting these responses when the grifter tries to lie again.

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    There is video out there from even before 2015 that had planned this "pandemic" outbreak. And tell me why the countries of the world started acting like Nazis about it? No travel. No work. No Freedom.

    We've all posted things that the several governments of the world enacted in lock step that has never in the history of our planet ever been done to the general public with such effective precision... planned all along.

    This virus was purposely invented and released on to the people of the world. It's MASS MURDER AND YOU KNOW IT.
     
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    But then new information came out in the form of a COVID 19 commission report and the poster is re-evaluating based on that information. What's wrong with that? To pretend like we all had perfect information this entire time throughout the pandemic is nonsense.
     
  18. gator95

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    That didn't happen. We knew that kids weren't covid spreaders in May of 2020 yet that didn't stop the US from keeping schools closed for over a year in many places. We knew that natural immunity was superior to the vaccine very early on. We knew lockdowns wouldn't work in the US and we had data for years showing masks don't help stop a respiratory virus. We knew Sweden did things different than almost any other country and this poster knew it also and posted about it. NOW that Sweden has the lowest all deaths record during the pandemic does this grifter say Sweden actually did lock down. It's a joke, and anyone with a non partisan brain can see it.
     
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  19. mikemcd810

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    I don't know why I take the bait, but kids can spread COVID and we wouldn't have definitively known something like that so early in the pandemic in May 2020. You also need to consider that kids don't teach themselves and many teachers have high-risk factors. People also need to get COVID before getting NI and not everyone was cool with "hope I'm not one of the unlucky healthy people who die from this."

    The poster is also providing a nuanced and well reasoned response about Sweden but you can't get past "you said they didn't lockdown LOL." Aside from a small number of posters who agree with you, everyone else can see who's really the joke and using a partisan brain.
     
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  20. BigCypressGator1981

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    Not really.
     
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