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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. QGator2414

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  2. gatorpa

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    Did your double in that time span?
     
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    Despite his credentials Dr. Yeadon seems to have a credibility problem.
    The ex-Pfizer scientist who became an anti-vax hero.
    In October [of 2020], Yeadon wrote a column for the United Kingdom’s Daily Mail newspaper that also appeared on MailOnline, one of the world’s most-visited news websites. It declared that deaths caused by COVID-19, which then totaled about 45,000 in Britain, will soon “fizzle out” and Britons “should immediately be allowed to resume normal life.” Since then, the disease has killed about another 80,000 people in the UK.
     
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  5. l_boy

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    a 60/40 as up about 62%. Fauci net worth up about 67%. Maybe he was 65/35, or it incudes home value increase.
     
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  6. HeyItsMe

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    Notice how he only ever posts Dr. Drew videos? Lol. He loves his grifters.
     
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  7. duggers_dad

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    Neither Yeadon nor anyone else could have anticipated the massive reclassification of deaths. And so it remains that he’s smarter than you and your people.
     
  8. gator95

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    Yet another article about how school closures will cost our children dearly. This was the fault of our Govt and Teachers unions. Didn't have to be this way. Don't worry though, the grifters and charlatans will say "kids are resilient" or some stupid crap like that.

    COVID's education crisis: A lost generation?

    The actual numbers vary by community, but according to a nationwide test given to 4th and 8th graders, the National Assessment of Educational Progress, reading skills dropped to the lowest point in 30 years.

    And in math, nearly 40% of eighth graders couldn't understand basic concepts – the worst performance since testing began back in 1969.
     
  9. duggers_dad

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    The Salem Witch Trials never saw 2020 coming.
     
  10. duggers_dad

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    No, we’re not forgetting ...

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  11. AzCatFan

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    This belief that because Sweden didn't have forced lockdowns that nothing changed in the country and that is why they have a lower excess mortality rate than other countries is an overly-simplistic fallacy and wrong...DEAD WRONG. Sweden commissioned a COVID-19 Commission and their report is very telling. They admit that in the early months, doing nothing was the wrong course, and their conclusion:

    The Swedish COVID-19 Commission felt that earlier and more extensive pandemic action should have been taken, particularly during the first wave.
    And while the Swedes didn't do mandatory lockdowns, they felt recommended mitigation measurements would be sufficient. They believed if the Swedish government warned and recommended people to stay home, the Swedes would be compliant, even without mandates. The Swedes were correct:

    The Commission suggested that voluntary, rather than mandatory, measures were suitable, because they gave Swedish people more personal freedom than many other countries. The Swedish approach assumed individual responsibility and mobile phone data did show a substantial decrease in mobility in Swedish society in early March 2020. This would probably have reduced viral transmission. This reduced mobility occurred even before the PHA issued recommendations to limit travel and to work from home.
    As stated, the "substantial decrease in mobility" were even before the suggested work from home measure. And as we know, the Swedes took this suggestion to heart as well, as Stockholm became the leader of wfh per capita, with nearly 50% of all Stockholm residents working from home, as compared to below 20% here stateside.

    While schools in Sweden for kids under 16 remained open, it's not like life went on for children unaffected.

    Sweden kept schools open for most children up to 16 years of age. Despite this, children also paid the price during the pandemic. According to the Commission, Swedish children indicated that cancelled leisure activities and not being able to play with their peers were major drawbacks of the pandemic. Several reports have shown that social isolation had a significant impact on the mental health of young people.
    And the commission thought again, early on, Sweden didn't do enough to make changes to protect all lives:

    The Commission agreed with the decision to keep schools open, but suggested that other venues with intense personal contact, such as restaurants and swimming pools, should have been closed during the early pandemic. It also felt that cultural and sports events should have been cancelled.

    To suggest that had the US followed the Swedish model and we would have the same results ignores several, very important facts. First, while Sweden didn't have mandatory lockdowns, the Swedes followed the suggestions of the government to mitigate the spread of COVID. Again, WFH rate of 50% in Stockholm versus 20% average in the states. There are also other major differences, including a single occupancy household rate in Sweden of 47%, whereas in the US, our multi-generational household rate is almost the same as our single occupancy household rate, at around 25%.

    I'll ask some simple questions. Can anyone here, without resorting to idiotic name calling, can make the argument that Sweden did nothing in response to COVID? And given the facts Sweden had 2.5X work-from-home rate, and 2X the single occupancy household rate, can anyone make the argument our excess death rate, per capita, would have mirrored Sweden had we followed their model?

    Now, if you can make these arguments, go for it. If your entire counter-argument to these facts is I'm a charlatan and grifter, then you should seriously do some self reflection, and maybe check out a high school debate club and learn how to use your critical thinking skills.
     
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  12. HeyItsMe

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    One of the best posters on here by far, absolutely just destroyed them in an argument, Cat. Unfortunately for you, you almost certainly won’t get any critical thinking skills or responses in return, but rather a simple laughing emoji because these people can’t think for themselves and only believe what Fox News and right wing media telll them.
     
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  13. duggers_dad

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    Hence, the futility of hiding behind big brothers to determine who destroys whom over the question of why some countries handled a fictitious pathogen better.
     
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    Do you believe in miraculous coincidences, or is this proof of the plandemic.

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    This person has a screw loose..
     
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    And she's probably one of the nicer ones running around loose.
     
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  18. gator95

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    Told you the grifter would be along! Does anyone need me to post the times this charlatan was on here saying Sweden was doing a terrible job because they didn't lock down? I can post them again if anyone needs a refresher course LOL. I don't even read what that poster post anymore. If one can't admit they were wrong on lockdowns, school closures, masks, natural immunity and vaccinating healthy kids then they don't deserve to have anyone read their posts. Instead I just laugh, which this grifter then copied. Too funny.
     
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  19. AzCatFan

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    As predicted, the only response I get to completely destroying the argument contains simpleton name-calling, and zero critical thinking skills to combat any one of my arguments. I do better arguing with my 4th grader.

    Sweden's own Commission admitted it failed to act quick enough in the beginning, costing the lives of Swedish citizens. It also admitted that even though there were shut down mandates, there were significant changes in Sweden after the first wave of COVID hit that helped reduce the spread.

    But charlatans with no critical thinking abilities read only the headlines and think they know everything.
     
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