Three kids killed by shooter at Christian school

Honestly? I think it's less guns...much, much less guns. But that is a dead idea from the get-go, so I don't really see the point of all the other window dressing solutions. I don't think any of the solutions presented stop this, or the other more prevalent gun violence in lower income areas. The access to guns when someone is mentally-ill, raging, or just wanting to commit a crime is why we have the level of violence we have. It makes the lethality really easy. Like someone on the thread said, if someone is intent in this country in killing a lot of people, and willing to die, there isn't a lot you can do if they have the weapons. I don't really see anything changing in re: to this until the culture changes in it's attitudes towards guns and that probably doesn't happen until generations turn over. And even then it'll take quite a while to reduce the general population of guns which over time will reduce the amount in the wrong hands.

 

I generally reserve T&P’s for 10 dead +. It’s not like the families of these poor children are asking for them. I suspect they will soon have rage in their hearts towards a big chunk of gun owners and 2nd amendment kablamists.

Edit looks like said 2A types disapprove….

 

This 100%. I gave up expecting anything after that.

 

I added the yellow info at the bottom to the NYT chart.

 

If it were me, I'd look to identify missed opportunities and other flaws in the process. I imagine there are thousands of people that already operate in such a role for their profession. The problem is the information never gets disclosed, so there's no collective opportunity to learn from such things. I think part of the problem is people are looking to cover their tracks so they don't come under fire for their role in the missed opportunities.

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Right, but disclosure tells us if there's nothing useful there. *That* is useful information. Sorry, but I don't believe these things are just random occurrences. Without the data, we'll never know. What's the alternative, just hang on the guns vs. no guns debate as if it's the only way to learn about these situations? I don't buy it.

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Awful

 

sure, if you expand the definition of mass shootings to include things like domestic acts or gang-related activity, then that might be the case. Including domestic incidents (those ones that occur in private homes) and gang-related activity skews the data and those two have different causes and thus different remedies than those in schools or those that target the public at random.

 

While police have called the suspect a female and a woman, and used she/her pronouns during their first press conferences, on LinkedIn, Hale indicated the use of he/him pronouns. Nashville Police Chief John Drake said she does identify as transgender, per a later press conference. He didn’t explain what pronouns though or whether she transitioned from female to male or male to female

Hale’s family and friends have not commented if Hale was transgender or had transitioned from female to male or just preferred he/him pronouns. The LinkedIn also indicated Hale has used the name Aiden Hale, including links to a now-deleted Instagram page under the name “creative.aiden,” and a Facebook page with the name “Aiden Creates,” along with a still-active RedBubble site with the same name. Hale uses the name Audrey Hale on a personal website.



Audrey Hale, Nashville Covenant School Shooting Suspect: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

 

Thankfully now he/she identifies as dead. Good riddance. Anyone that kills kids is a special kind of degenerate.

 

So, bat shat crazy…

 

pretty much. And biologically male.

 

Actually biologically female (or at least originally). Supposedly transitioning to or identifying as male. Apparently preferred male pronouns.

 

Wut is wrong with you? He is tempering his remarks. The regressive address is “This is Biden’s fault. If kids had open carry this never would have happened!!!”

Edit I see this Twitter K-Blamist is offering up T&P’s what a loser.

 

Kind of depressing that we can move so quickly to ban Michelangelo's David for perceived pornography to 'protect' children, yet are completely incapable of doing anything at all to protect children from being killed in school.

 

This tweet contains a gift article from the Washington Post with visual reconstructions of what an AR-15 does to a body, including examples of a Sandy Hook and Parkland victim. I cannot understand why civilians need to own these guns.

 

You continually assume that people are not researching mass shootings and their causes; and/or you assume that the information is not being shared. There are active shooter trainings in countless industries, not to mention in schools. Why don't you seek the information yourself? I assure you it's more readily available than you think. You also seem to want to blame everyone but the shooters. As if we should all just be shooter prevention specialists, ready to snuff out the next incident before it happens.

 

Nashville congressman's card. Not a good look.