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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. duggers_dad

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    The Reaper probably cost more than the Moskva.
     
  2. okeechobee

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    So, the Washington Post is now a Kremlin friendly publication? Interesting take.
     
  3. apkgator

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    Lol, you really are swimming when the conversations get serious. It was a Ukrainian that said that, not a US military official. And yes, Ukraine is at war in case you missed it
     
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  4. G8trGr8t

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    And Hungary is holding out to get EU aid released that is being held due to corruption in Hungary. They are blackmailing the EU with the NATO vote. I say we vote their ass out of NATO and then hold the vote on Finland and Sweden

    Hungary pressures EU by delaying Finland, Sweden NATO vote | PBS NewsHour

    But a succession of delays by Hungary’s government — and its shifting justifications in explaining them — have caused frustration and worry in Sweden, Finland and beyond, and raised questions over what Hungary hopes to achieve through them.

    Daniel Hegedus, an analyst and fellow for Central Europe at the German Marshall Fund, a think tank that seeks to promote cooperation between North America and the European Union, said that at the heart of Hungary’s intransigence on NATO expansion is its desire to exert leverage on the EU, which has frozen billions in funds to Budapest over corruption and rule-of-law concerns.

    Hungary’s hope, Hegedus said, “is that by playing with this postponement of the voting, they can push the Swedes and the Finns to support a potential release of the Hungarian funds in April, or at least make these countries not vocally critical.”
     
  5. duggers_dad

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    US officials have not openly stated that the US is at war with Russia in a proxy war the US is losing to Russia.
     
  6. duggers_dad

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  7. ValdostaGatorFan

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    Do you have a timestamp on where I should look to see "As you watch the video the Russian air craft flies away without any damage at all."
     
  8. carpeveritas

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    If you can point out the damage to the plane I'd happily agree with you. From my perspective their is none and given the numerous cameras on that predator the evidence of a collision would certainly be caught on film. Yet it is not.
     
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  9. duggers_dad

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    Who cares how the drone was brought down ? I suspect that the US will not do this again if only because people who are decidedly less reckless than Lindsey Graham are running military operations.
     
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  10. carpeveritas

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    You can see what has been released just as well as I can. Two passes on the drone yet not a single pass shows a collision or a clipping of the propeller of that drone. Given the mantra wouldn't you think the military would release that footage if it had in fact occurred?
     
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    Orban is a bad actor for sure, part of what makes him such a hero in maga world. Pros and cons of kicking Hungary out of NATO. Pootie would love that and would move quickly to form some sort of alliance with Orban in an effort to fracture NATO. That said, Finland and Sweden joining up puts pootie pie in a pickle if his goal was to expand his empire and have Europe trembling at his feet.
     
  12. Sohogator

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    Who cares? The plane isn’t shown after, it s shown before being flown very poorly. Also we do have a before and after of the prop. I’m going to be very nice to you. In your head what do you IMAGINE happened. Take your time to work it out and get back to the group with your answer.
     
  13. ValdostaGatorFan

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    Sorry, I'm still stuck on you saying that the Russian aircraft flew away undamaged.
     
  14. Sohogator

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    He’s missing at least one of his senses…
     
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  15. ajoseph

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    We are not at War with Russia.

    We are proving assistance to Ukraine to help them to help them defend themselves against an aggressor.

    Please feel free to post this factual explanation on the message boards of Pravda.
     
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  16. Sohogator

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    when in a hole first stop digging…
     
  17. Sohogator

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    Man i was reasonably sure give 5 minutes to puzzle through the conundrum of the damaged prop he’d come to the right answer or even another answer. It’s rare, but sometimes I over estimate someone’s power of reason.
     
  18. ajoseph

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    I recall from the interview that the Russian jet flew away WITH damage, showing there was a collision. The explanation of Russian pilot error was geometry-based, which naturally “flew” over my head.
     
  19. ajoseph

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    Because that would be a false statement of fact.
     
  20. ajoseph

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    I know you despise reality, but yet again, The US did not roll tanks or short missiles into Ukraine. That was all Russia. The United States did not roll tanks or shoot missiles into Russian, that was nobody. The United States is not fighting for its existence; Ukraine is.

    Your bot-based information does nothing to alter the reality of the situation.