BigCypress has it correct, but only partially. Yes - folks who said it was a bio-weapon were ostracized (correct) AND folks who said it came from the lab were banned from Twitter, Facebook and suffered the ridicule from legacy media and Fauci-led “scientists.” Most of us - across all sides - have minds like cement: thoroughly mixed and permanently set. In the COVID case the “science” that was proclaimed for Origin, Closures, Masks, and Innoculations (a/k/a “vaccines”) was not science at all but the opinion of key influencers who had folks jump on board and minimize any dissent.
For a lab leak to make sense, wouldn't the virus have to originate in the lab? A lab can't "leak" something that already exists. If there's a jump from animals to humans, that could conceivably happen anywhere. Unless, that is, the lab did something to cause the jump. Let's say the Wuhan Institute of Virology captures a bat carrying a coronavirus. They do what scientists do and start experimenting. Without much protective gear, because everyone believes humans are immune to bat-COVID and China plays fast and loose with those sorts of things. But then, ut oh, a scientist gets sick. Turns out the virus mutated and can now infect humans. Unaware, the scientist goes home thinking he has a cold, coughs up a storm, and the rest is history. That's plausible to me. The virus doesn't have to be an intentional bio weapon to have a human cause.
It’s way more complicated than that. To change a virus don’t you need a virus. I suspect that all the mad scientists are doing is adding eye of newt, to the brew they *think* contains the virus and then making adjustments to the computer printout.
All true and very well stated. On the other hand, for me, it’s like watching people argue over whether the unicorn jumped the fence or whether the mad scientists were injecting unicorns with hormones.
That's my thought as well ... I don't think anyone has ruled out the possibility of the lab leak, even the CDC, but it seems if it did come from the lab, it was likely a naturally occurring virus the Chinese discovered and was keeping samples. But that said, if it's originally a bat virus, it will probably be impossible to ever prove whether it jumped naturally from bats or if the Chinese lab had it ... and if the Chinese were experimenting, did they cause the jump, or was the jump a natural process... I'm guessing this one of those things the world will never know.
Eye —> Ball ... It is impossible to discuss the “Origins of COVID”, because COVID is not a real phenomena. COVID-19 fails to meet the requirement for a new disease, and there was never any pandemic. There is NO VIRUS called “SARS-CoV-2”. SARS-CoV-2 is nothing more than a Computer Model, not based on any material thing. There is NO New, Unique, or Distinguishing Syndrome for COVID. There is no symptom or collection of symptoms which are pathognomic for COVID. There is NO TEST for “SARS-CoV-2” calibrated to Real World Reference Materials. There is NO PROOF the phantom, CGI pathogen causes the non-distinguishing syndrome.
https://www.theatlantic.com/science...ch-raccoon-dogs-wuhan-market-lab-leak/673390/ Pretty compelling evidence, but not proof, that Covid 19 could have come from wet markets from a racoon dog (a Fox like canine that has a face like a raccoon ). Genetic info for Swabs or samples taken early in the pandemic were posted online, kind of unexpectedly but were then shortly taken down, but some researchers were able to download the information before taken down. They found samples that had racoon dog dna and Covid dna on the same sample. While there are other theoretical ways the two could be comingled on a sample the most plausible is the dog carried the Covid.
I don't believe the Chinese released the virus intentionally, but I do believe there was a very extensive and exhaustive cover-up by Chinese officials and for obvious reason. One thing that was always very telling to me is that for a country so overcrowded and populated, how well China managed to contain the spread. Sure, they used draconian shelter in place/lockdowns, but they still fared much better than other nations who used similar techniques. It's almost as if they knew what they were up against. I believe the Chinese had information about the virus ahead of time to help slow the spread, but couldn't release that information to the world, because it would have illuminated the fact they knew what the virus was and had studied it for some time before it began spreading amongst the population. (ie in a lab)
While I agree with your thoughts here I also don’t believe China has been honest with their death tolls. Just my gut.
The Wuhan Institute is a Bio Safety Level 4 Lab that studies corona viruses. Literally no one just "starts experimenting" and "Without much protective gear". Can accidents happen? Sure. But this is one of the most advanced research labs in the world. No one just starts willy-nilly poking around with bats, which are known hosts of the most dangerous diseases on planet earth. The last 2 known SARs-1 outbreaks were traced to lab leaks in China. However, those were pre-Wuhan. In fact, the BSL4 Wuhan Lab was built in large part in response to the SARs-1 outbreaks from less secure research facilities. Given the Chinese Government's need to never look bad to the international community, it is more likely that a zoonotic event took place and as the virus spread, samples were sent to the Wuhan Lab for study. Once the situation started to get out of hand, the government tried to scrub the research so that they could pretend they had no idea about the virus and were not responsible for allowing it to easily spread out of Hubei province. People should also keep in mind that the harder we look at deaths due to "pneumonia of unknown origin" that spiked in the US near the end of 2019, people are realizing that this virus was circulating outside China before the rest of the world knew where "Wuhan" even was. So much of the current public debate is just flat out wrong about "facts" and is almost all politics and very little science, and a bunch of people spouting off without understanding the first thing about virus transmission. First US COVID cases may date back to mid-December 2019
A new theory - COVID-19 found in 'raccoon dogs' in China | READ DETAILS | World News – India TV (indiatvnews.com) >>A new analysis of genetic samples collected from a seafood market in central China's Wuhan city shows the presence of the SARS-CoV-2 virus in raccoon dogs sold at the venue, strengthening the case for the natural origin of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a team of international experts. The New York Times said in a report on Thursday (March 16) that genetic data was drawn from swabs taken from in and around the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market starting in January 2020, “shortly after the Chinese authorities had shut down the market because of suspicions that it was linked to the outbreak of a new virus.” The new evidence comes weeks after an intelligence assessment from the US Department of Energy pointed out that an “accidental laboratory leak” from a virology laboratory in Wuhan was most likely the cause of the pandemic. While the animals had been cleared out from the market, researchers took swabs from the walls, floors, metal cages and carts used for transporting animal cages, the report said.<< “In samples that came back positive for the coronavirus, the international research team found genetic material belonging to animals, including large amounts that were a match for the raccoon dog,” it said, quoting three scientists involved in the analysis.
The US was worried about safety protocols for years before this happened. Could easily see a lab leak but because of China we most likely will never know the truth. Chinese Lab with Checkered Safety Record Draws Scrutiny over COVID-19
The only thing China was guilty of, the ONLY thing, was fomenting panic, over select pneumonia cases, and practically goading the world into lockdowns. Lab leak is nothing more than an occasion to sustain the fear narrative and for people to blame anyone other than their own governments - and their fellow citizens - for the greatest mass-hysteria in modern history.
More reporting on racoon dog theory. New Data Links Pandemic’s Origins to Raccoon Dogs at Wuhan Market
And this is why I've said all along I'm not even convinced it came from Wuhan or China ... Wuhan may have just been the first city to get hit hard ... And yeah, I remember early on in Florida, there was a report that doctors had been seeing many cases of "the flu" where people were testing negative for "the flu" in December, leading some to believe there were cases in Florida before we knew it. I've said this before, but around new years I was sick, and lost my taste for a couple days, even though my nose wasn't clogged up. Didn't think much of it at the time, but I still wonder if I had it. Anecdotal, I know ... but I don't think we will ever know what really happened.
